+1. I think making Slider the basis of a services framework in YARN will
allow us to significantly improve YARN's support for services.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli <vino...@apache.org
> wrote:

> Hi, Hadoop YARN community!
>
> (Cross-posting across Hadoop and Slider communities)
>
> I opened a JIRA a little while ago to pursue a native YARN framework for
> services: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-5079.
>
> It is part of a bigger effort that a bunch of us YARN community members
> are interested in making progress on: YARN-4692 - [Umbrella] Simplified and
> first-class support for services in YARN.
>
> The idea is that with our current attention on making services
> first­-class, it's time to take a fresh look at how we can make Apache
> Hadoop YARN support services well out of the box. I’ve been looking at
> various possibilities - ranging from a custom new framework room scratch to
> using one of the existing projects - and stopped at Apache Slider (
> http://slider.incubator.apache.org) given its association with some of
> the YARN community members (Steve Loughran, Devaraj Das, Arun C Murthy,
> myself etc.).
>
> Slider client & AM already handles a great deal of the functionality that
> we need. I posit that assimilating the client, ApplicationMaster etc of an
> existing framework like Apache Slider can serve our purpose really well. My
> early informal discussions about this with few Hadoop and Slider community
> members yielded generally favourable feedback.
>
> The Apache Slider incubator community also discussed this and expressed
> generally positive interest in YARN taking up Slider’s key pieces, you can
> see that discussion here: https://s.apache.org/0hoh.
>
> So in summary, we are looking to the following
>
> - Code
>    — ‘Graduate' key pieces (Slider client, AM) of Apache Slider into
> Apache Hadoop for providing a native services experiences in YARN
>    — Leave for now some of the pieces behind in Apache Slider - (a) Slider
> agent as we won’t need it, (b) Slider packages that need more deliberation
> in terms of where they will live in the long term.
>    — Create a branch in YARN, copy this code over into a new module(s),
> and work towards completing a functioning app running on YARN.
>
> - Communities & releases
>    — Good thing is that many of Apache Slider community members are
> already seasoned folk in the Apache Hadoop ecosystem projects. For those
> committers & PMC in Slider that are not yet Hadoop committers / PMC,
> without complicating things much, a proposed path forward is active
> participation in the branch (as branch committers?) and eventually in
> mainline YARN and thus go through a natural progression to committership /
> PMC. Given that most of the members are stalwarts in the Apache
> communities, this should be a cinch IMO.
>    — The work on this new code can start, and depending on its state, and
> assuming that the experiment succeeds, can be merged into trunk and later
> picked up in the next nearest & feasible Apache Hadoop release.
>    — While the work on forked-over-code goes on till we have a functioning
> app, the current Apache Slider project continues to live, with supporting
> releases etc. At some point in the future, when things become clearer, more
> decisions can be taken on the (parts left behind in the) incubating
> project’s future.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> +Vinod
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