sure! and yes it makes much more sense in that direction!
thanks for bringing this

Le mar. 29 mars 2022 à 17:13, Julian Sedding <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Hi Nicolas
>
> I suppose it could also work the other way around:
>
> - first define a way to describe content transformations that can be
> used for decorating resources (and yes, that's the hard part)
> - then integrate support for the same descriptions into Sling pipes
>
> That way you don't have to support everything Sling pipes supports
> these days with the decorator approach. But you could still avoid the
> need to duplicate the definition for two sub-systems.
>
> I agree that not all of this has to happen now. But thinking about it
> now might make it a lot easier to add support for such scenarios
> later.
>
> Regards
> Julian
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 4:55 PM Nicolas Peltier <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Julian
> >
> > didn't necessarily want to bind both of them even if i get your point:
> > having both"$ some/type | write foo=bar" and something saying more or
> less
> > the same (point 2 of my former mail) looks cumbersome, but it's also a
> good
> > first step to get both hacking & "masking" parts simple.
> > Having some later translation service can still be planned but wouldn't
> be
> > a priority imo.
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
> > Le mar. 29 mars 2022 à 16:21, Julian Sedding <[email protected]> a
> écrit :
> >
> > > Hi Nicolas
> > >
> > > Do you think it would be possible to "apply" a Sling pipes execution
> > > only via a decorator until after the blue/green deployment is
> > > completed. And only after that lazily "apply" the pipes execution to
> > > the persisted content?
> > >
> > > That's what I read into your initial email, and that would IMHO be
> > > more desirable than re-defining the same changes in a different way.
> > > Or maybe my misunderstanding is on a more fundamental level?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Julian
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 5:23 PM Nicolas Peltier <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > so there are two levels to it:
> > > >
> > > > 1. how ultimately we decorate things up given a configured set of
> content
> > > > hacks. I guess that decorator [2] plus yes something like [1] can
> help.
> > > Not
> > > > sure how bad impact on performances would be though
> > > > 2. how we configure those content hacks. I was initially thinking
> about
> > > > annotations & headers, but i wonder if some tree of CA configurations
> > > would
> > > > not be better, as it would fix already a lot of context specific
> > > questions.
> > > > It would also allow to add/remove the hack by changing something more
> > > > contentish than java code.
> > > >
> > > > Throwing this here to see if there is any more reaction from the
> > > community,
> > > > and will soon start to work on a whiteboard draft.
> > > >
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > >
> https://sling.apache.org/documentation/the-sling-engine/wrap-or-decorate-resources.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le jeu. 10 mars 2022 à 14:33, Julian Sedding <[email protected]> a
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Nicolas
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want to go with a decoration approach (whether it is via a
> > > > > resource provider or decorator), a few classes I put into the
> > > > > whiteboard a while ago might help [1]. I once used them to "mount"
> > > > > repetitive and/or dynamic parts of AEM dialog definitions into a
> > > > > static AEM dialog definition.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Julian
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/sling-whiteboard/tree/feature/sling-resource-graft
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:55 AM Konrad Windszus <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Nicolas, anything which eases the process of content
> migration for
> > > > > blue/green deployments will be highly appreciated. Hiding the
> > > differences
> > > > > on the resource level sounds like a good idea although you probably
> > > have to
> > > > > distinguish between read/write access. Looking forward to your
> > > proposal.
> > > > > > Konrad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am 10.03.2022 um 10:51 schrieb Nicolas Peltier <
> > > > > [email protected]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i've been discussing here & there several times about having
> sling
> > > > > pipes in
> > > > > > > a CI/CD pipeline as part of a new application deployment where
> > > content
> > > > > > > handling changed substantially and application v(n+1) can't
> work
> > > with
> > > > > > > content v(n).
> > > > > > > pipes responsibility would be to handle the switch of content
> to
> > > > > v(n+1).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thinking/discussing about it, it does not sound right to me if
> > > there
> > > > > is no
> > > > > > > possibility to serve 2 versions of the content at the same time
> > > and to
> > > > > > > quickly validate that everything is correct, as it ends up
> being
> > > non
> > > > > > > validated code (pipe on specific prod content is new).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The other alternative is to have code handling both versions
> of the
> > > > > > > content, when no occurrence of the v(n) content is there
> anymore
> > > > > (which can
> > > > > > > be done by code, or accelerated eventually sling pipe
> execution),
> > > > > switch to
> > > > > > > a simpler version. To make that approach less expensive, i was
> > > thinking
> > > > > > > about something at sling level (resource provider and
> decorator)
> > > that
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > help doing those things quicker, through some annotations.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any thoughts / feedbacks / concerns before i dig deeper ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nicolas
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>

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