Hi Georg,

I'm trying to digest what has been done here.  It looks like this makes the
solution that was done for https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-7764
obsolete and breaks compatibility for any customization done via a fragment
attached to the previous o.a.sling.starter.startup snapshot bundle?

Have you provided any documentation on the expected technique for
customizing the content of the page that is displayed when starting up or
some guidance on how people would migrate from the old way to the new
solution?

Also what should happen for custom builds that don't include
the org.apache.sling.starter.content artifact and still want a default
"starting up" page to be displayed?


Regards,
Eric


On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 3:35 PM Georg Henzler <ghenz...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I finished this, mostly with commit [1]. I moved some bundles into
> different start levels for better startup behaviour (that way I got
> could finish this without fixing SLING-8355 first).
>
> -Georg
>
> [1]
>
> https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-starter/commit/a16fb43f1d0333f74b066844e0377d93ca1e1e08
>
> On 2019-05-14 11:05, Georg Henzler wrote:
> > So I'll move forward with this and I created [1] to track this change.
> >
> > -Georg
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-8418
> >
> > On 2019-04-08 10:49, Jörg Hoh wrote:
> >> Hi Georg,
> >>
> >> ok, wasn't aware of the "100% compatibility mode" :-) So +1 from my
> >> side.
> >>
> >> Jörg
> >>
> >> Am Mo., 8. Apr. 2019 um 00:28 Uhr schrieb Georg Henzler
> >> <ghenz...@apache.org
> >>> :
> >>
> >>> Hi Jörg,
> >>>
> >>> there is the option "autoDisableFilter" [1] in the
> >>> ServiceUnavailableFilter - if true the filter automatically
> >>> unregisters
> >>> itself upon first non-503 result. Once unregistered it listens to
> >>> FrameworkEvent.STARTLEVEL_CHANGED events to reregister once needed
> >>> (the
> >>> shutdown case). During normal operations (that includes deployments
> >>> that
> >>> might cause the selected "systemalive" checks to be temporarily
> >>> unavailable) the filter is not active (which is also good from a
> >>> performance perspective).
> >>>
> >>> So really, all that would be needed to replace oas-startupfilter +
> >>> -disabler and oas-starter-startup is the simple config [2] in the
> >>> oas-starter provisioning model.
> >>>
> >>> -Georg
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/felix/blob/d5245ba3ba306b57b83c4d5c6cfe499d955b0acb/healthcheck/core/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/hc/core/impl/filter/ServiceUnavailableFilter.java#L98
> >>>
> >>> [2]
> >>>
> >>>     org.apache.felix.hc.core.impl.filter.ServiceUnavailableFilter
> >>>      tags=["systemalive]
> >>>
> >>> osgi.http.whiteboard.context.select="(&(
> osgi.http.whiteboard.context.name
> >>> \=*)(!(osgi.http.whiteboard.context.name\=org.osgi.service.http)))"
> >>>      osgi.http.whiteboard.filter.regex=".*"
> >>>      autoDisableFilter=B"true"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2019-04-07 19:49, Jörg Hoh wrote:
> >>> > Hi Georg,
> >>> >
> >>> > Merging the 2 implementations oas-startupfilter + -disabler and
> >>> > oas-starter-startup makes fully sense to me, although I am bit
> hesitant
> >>> > by
> >>> > replacing the basic approach.
> >>> >
> >>> > these 2 have a rather static assumption, when the application is up,
> >>> > and
> >>> > their sole purpose is to indicate that. And once the system is up,
> it's
> >>> > up
> >>> > and this state remains unchanged until the startupfilterDisabler is
> >>> > deactivated. A healthcheck based implementation can changed its mind
> >>> > based
> >>> > on many factors, you already mentioned the fact that key services
> >>> > should be
> >>> > available. If these services go down during runtime, the status of
> this
> >>> > check changes.
> >>> >
> >>> > If I understand you correctly, then the semantic of the startup
> itself
> >>> > might not change, but it's more likely, that the unavailability of
> such
> >>> > a
> >>> > key service would cause the Filter to kick again, changing
> >>> > runtime-behavior; currently it does not.
> >>> >
> >>> > Is this intended?
> >>> >
> >>> > Jörg
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Am Sa., 6. Apr. 2019 um 00:24 Uhr schrieb Georg Henzler
> >>> > <ghenz...@apache.org
> >>> >> :
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi all,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> we have currently two mechanisms in Sling to wait for startup:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> * sling-org-apache-sling-startupfilter +
> >>> >> sling-org-apache-sling-startupfilter-disabler
> >>> >> * sling-org-apache-sling-starter-startup (only used for the starter
> >>> >> application AFAIK)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Now that systemready in Felix is fully migrated to Felix Health
> Checks
> >>> >> I
> >>> >> would like to rely on ServiceUnavailableFilter [1] instead. The
> >>> >> advantage is that this filter can be configured in a declarative
> >>> >> fashion
> >>> >> (what is required to be alive can be configured, e.g. for a customer
> >>> >> project it's easy to wait for additional custom services) and 503 is
> >>> >> also correctly sent upon shutdown.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Is this approach something everyone is ok with?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -Georg
> >>> >>
> >>> >> [1]
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/felix/blob/trunk/healthcheck/core/src/main/java/org/apache/felix/hc/core/impl/filter/ServiceUnavailableFilter.java
> >>> >>
> >>>
>

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