On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 23:37 +0000, João Gouveia wrote:
> Please note that the scores are just an example. I'm not really sure
> what would be appropriate for the general user.

Re-scoring would tell us.

> ----- "Karsten Bräckelmann" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 01:40 +0000, João Gouveia wrote:
> > > http://mailspike.org/anubis/implementation_sa.html
> > 
> > I guess the rule definitions are slightly broken. After all, the ZBI
> > meta especially is meant to counter multiple hits. However, since the
> > plain Z eval() rule does not have a score assigned, it still *does* get
> > a default score of 1.0.
> 
> Nice catch. It should be __RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_Z instead. I'll fix that right away.

You missed the tflags RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_Z setting in that change.


Anyway, now the logic is much more straight forward. We got L[345] bad
reputation. And then there is ZBI, which translates to a current spam
wave from a sender listed with *no* previous (long term) reputation, or
better than L3.

Given the current example scores, this means a short term ZBI listing
equals a long-term very bad reputation -- regardless of the long term
reputation otherwise.

No, wait. It does *not* raise the score for L[34] listed IPs...


> As for the bad/neutral senders, I see your point. What logic would you
> suggest instead? The basic premises are:

Well, it depends on what these listings actually mean. And statistics,
which is what ruleqa tells you.

However, given the above thoughts, here is a quick attempt at the logic.
Note that it is late here, I am tired, and didn't really think through
the changed situation. Use a pound of salt.

meta L5  __L5 && !Z
meta L4  __L4 && !Z
meta L3  __L3 && !Z

See what I am heading at? A current outbreak, Z, overrules any long term
reputation. It is bad. Now. Whatever it is and will be long term.

Fall back to the (lower scored?) L[345] only, if there is no evidence of
a current outbreak.

A quick shot at it. I might change my mind after some sleep and a
coffee. Or three.


> > What listing and scoring logic did you actually mean? Feel free to give
> > a verbal rather than logic expression. :)
> 
> If you didn't understand the logic, than I'd say that it's probably wrong :-)
> The goal was simply not to penalize too much bad senders that are
> listed both in L3-5 and Z.

Right. The above is a quick shot at using Z -- or, in the absence of a Z
listing, use L[345] long term reputation.

In other words, being bad right now does not necessarily have a severe
impact on the long term reputation. But it is bad. Now.

  guenther


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