The issue is that the project isn't monitoring the IRC and needs someone
who can do so.  If you have Op, please email me off list and I'll work with
you to get someone on the project with op status and discuss further.
--
Kevin A. McGrail
Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171


On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 3:32 PM John Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2020-03-02 10:58 p.m., Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> > I'd vote for shutting it down and notifying freenode.  No one has ops or
> > monitors it for a decade.  Thanks Joe, for that link.
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 7:52 AM Joe Quinn <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 2/28/20 2:17 AM, Henrik K wrote:
> >      > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 02:58:57PM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> >      >> I would recommend we shut it down or remove it from the wiki and
> >     ignore it.
> >      > Maybe just mention it's unofficial channel without active support
> >     and should
> >      > use lists/bugzilla.  "Shutting" a channel down would be like 90's
> >     irc wars,
> >      > gain ops, kick everyone out, make channel invite only..
> >      >
> >     Let Freenode know if we're shutting it down. They distinguish between
> >     official and "topical" channels which prevents this sort of issue.
> >
> >     https://freenode.net/kb/answer/namespaces
> >
>
> I've been in the channel since January 2, 2016. My nickname is Frogging101.
>
> For some real data points, These are the message numbers per month since
> then, from my logs:
>
> 2016-01         542
> 2016-02         588
> 2016-03         890
> 2016-04         435
> 2016-05         606
> 2016-06         818
> 2016-07         324
> 2016-08         456
> 2016-09         336
> 2016-10         663
> 2016-11         406
> 2016-12         776
>
> 2017-01         214
> 2017-02         250
> 2017-03         441
> 2017-04         85
> 2017-05         226
> 2017-06         235
> 2017-07         218
> 2017-08         162
> 2017-09         150
> 2017-10         74
> 2017-11         97
> 2017-12         215
>
> 2018-01         216
> 2018-02         89
> 2018-03         94
> 2018-04         101
> 2018-05         75
> 2018-06         39
> 2018-07         232
> 2018-08         232
> 2018-09         44
> 2018-10         114
> 2018-11         138
> 2018-12         63
>
> 2019-01         191
> 2019-02         478
> 2019-03         59
> 2019-04         40
> 2019-05         29
> 2019-06         36
> 2019-07         34
> 2019-08         234
> 2019-09         110
> 2019-10         111
> 2019-11         107
> 2019-12         21
>
> 2020-01         21
> 2020-02         203
> 2020-03 (cur.)  117
>
> Activity is relatively low, and message count is a crude metric. But
> people do use the channel, and questions get asked and answered there,
> and discussions happen, however infrequently. The low activity in the
> channel could very plausibly be attributed to a lack of visibility on
> the website and Wiki.
>
> In any case, I see no need to shut it down. Why not increase its
> visibility instead?
>
> This thread began with Bill Cole asking about improving the channel by
> updating the topic and possibly adding new operators. It seems wrong
> that a constructive proposal to improve something instead results in a
> decision to simply shut it down (from people who were not even aware of
> nor users of it, no less).
>
> And FYI, Darxus is in the channel, and the topic has been fixed.
>
> John
>

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