On 5/13/22 19:03, Henrik K wrote: > On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 10:36:37AM +0200, Giovanni Bechis wrote: >> On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 12:54:41PM +0300, Henrik Krohns wrote: >>> >>> These kinds of changes just make you wonder what's the point of doing such >>> plugins inside SA distribution.. if we ever do get 4.0 released, I really >>> doubt if there are enough resources in the project to even release monthly >>> updates after that.. >>> >> I have no problem in working out-of-tree but distros will probably >> never package an external plugin and, in some cases, it may be better >> an outdated plugin then no plugin at all. >> Releasing every some months could help, distro will ship outdated packages >> in any case but I do not think we can do much to improve that situation. > > Bumping up this discussion due to: > https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7989 > > In current state the Esp.pm likely too vague for any users to use. It > should be clearly documented where the feed files are found, and what format > they should be expected to be in. An external github page related to the > plugin does not constitute as documentation. > Atm there are no public feeds afaik, I am using my private feeds. I will work on improving documentation about how to create feeds and (maybe) publish my feeds.
> Somewhat agree with Michael's comment that the module shouldn't be an > advertisement for Invaluement either. Then again, at this time Invaluement > doesn't even seem to be providing the data, so what use is for the module? > > For the actual reply to Giovannis comment, "it may be better an outdated > plugin then no plugin at all": Again, what use is the plugin as users > actually need knowledge and effort to setup the feed downloads and make sure > they work. With the same effort they can download up-to-date module from > Github into /etc/mail/spamassassin. > Esp module may be effectively outdated and SpamAssassin releases are not frequent as I would love to, for me there is no problem in removing the module from SpamAssassin src tree and work on it out-of-tree. Giovanni
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