Hi Alex,
Well, that is just Justin's opinion vis-à-vis his matter. It is different
from mine. Bottom line, you can always refer to Oracle or a copyright
expert on this matter and see what they suggest.

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 at 22:05, Alex Porcelli <porce...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Mich,
>
> Thank you for the prompt response.
>
> Looks like Justin Mclean has a slightly different perspective on the
> Oracle's license as you can see in [3].
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 4:17 PM Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is not an official response and should not be taken as an
>> official view. It is my own opinion.
>>
>> Looking at the reference [1], I can see a host of inclusion to other JDBC
>> vendor' drivers such as IBM DB2 and MSSQL
>>
>> With regard to link [2], it is already closed (3+ years) and it is
>> assumed that these references are taken as "convenience". There is no
>> implication that JDBC drivers are included on these releases, modified or
>> not modified.
>> Oracle provides multiple JDBC drivers like ojdbc5.jar, ojdbc6.jar,
>> ojdbc7.jar, ojdbv11.jar and so forth, free to download and use within the
>> license (you need to have a valid login to Oracle Center)
>>
>> This is what it says with regard to license
>>
>> Governed by the No-clickthrough FDHUT license
>> <https://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/otn_software/jdbc/FDHUT_LICENSE.txt>
>>
>> I glanced through the license and did not find anything that
>> contravened Spark references as in [1] in
>>
>>    - spark <https://github.com/apache/spark/tree/master>
>>    - /sql <https://github.com/apache/spark/tree/master/sql>
>>    - /core <https://github.com/apache/spark/tree/master/sql/core>
>>
>>
>> /pom.xml
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
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>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 at 16:16, Alex Porcelli <porce...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Spark Devs,
>>>
>>> I'm reaching out to understand how you managed to include the Oracle
>>> JDBC as one of your dependencies [1]. According to legal tickers
>>> [2][3], this is considered a Category X dependency and is not allowed.
>>>
>>> (I'm part of the Apache KIE podling, and we are struggling with such a
>>> dependency and being pointed out that you may have a solution to
>>> share).
>>>
>>> [1] - https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/sql/core/pom.xml#L187
>>> [2] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-526
>>> [3] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-663
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>> Apache KIE
>>>
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