Jungteak,

1. Technically, the Apache Spark community uses the community merge script
   which is independent from AGENTS.md. There is no individual skill.

   - https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/dev/merge_spark_pr.py

2. We only agreed on the commit polity, not a policy to make any PRs.
   A contributor is still able to make his/her PRs freely to the
   Apache Spark community repository (including the dependency change).
   That was what we wanted and agreed.

In short, I don't think your suggestion is a continuation of the existing
community consensus. And, I'm -1 for any alteration on the existing decision
on this area because I believe it's too much in the OSS community.

Dongjoon.

On 2026/11/08 23:58:36 Jungtaek Lim wrote:
> I'll clarify just to avoid any conflict.
> 
> What I want to do is very simple - we discussed and voted for this subject,
> which seems not that uneasy to codify to AGENTS.md. The condition isn't
> very complicated, and I think someone is already adding on their skill or
> custom agent.
> 
> I just want to see it in centralized AGENTS.md if we think this is a sort
> of BYLAWS today. It isn't really only the direction we codify AGENTS to
> block filing the PR (while it is also one of the direction with potential
> side effect) - we can codify AGENTS to formulate the description for
> dependency PR to emphasize the release date, and list up known
> vulnerabilities fixes in that release from very early of the PR. And we can
> codify AGENTS to take the decision into consideration while doing AI
> review; PMC members can merge the PR with their justification being
> clarified in the PR comment, to override the review if AGENTS do show false
> positives.
> 
> My question is why this is going to be an individual's skill rather than
> our shared skill.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2026 at 7:11 AM Jungtaek Lim <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > It is probably not very hard to add the check for CVE if the release has
> > been published due to CVE.
> >
> > LLM can scan a codebase and find bugs and we submit PRs automatically and
> > PRs are reviewed automatically via LLM. And we can’t ask LLM to check
> > whether there is no CVE fix on the release. One of the two is probably
> > incorrect.
> >
> > 2026년 11월 9일 (월) 오전 1:46, Dongjoon Hyun via dev <[email protected]>님이
> > 작성:
> >
> >> -1 for Jungtaek's additional suggestion because we voted to allow PMC to
> >> upgrade security-related dependency changes under the same rule.
> >>
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/cqbxzvtyvpgfy8nqodjpo2ochfw01lzk
> >> [VOTE] Set a buffer time before we upgrade to the latest version of
> >> dependencies
> >>
> >> The following is the original vote content.
> >>
> >> > The proposal is:
> >> > For the apache/spark repo only, we can only upgrade third-party
> >> > dependencies (including Apache projects) to a version released at least
> >> > seven days ago. This covers Java, Python and all other dependencies.
> >> > Security upgrades are exempted and will be conducted by PMCs.
> >>
> >> AFAIK, the agent has been already helping us in the above context
> >> and Jungtaek's additional suggestion is only to ban
> >> the legit Apache Spark PMC security activities.
> >>
> >> Dongjoopn.
> >>
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