Hello Reto,
ah yes, I read up on some of the Apache procedures to see how you are
working and I see now that the mailing list is the most important means
of communication here. Thanks for pointing me to the issue. In
principle, do you want me to comment here or in the issue tracker?
Regarding the different models:
First of all alignment should happen with the "Open Annotation Data Model":
http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#
This is the most current version. Annotation Ontology was merged into it.
I really recommend grounding any work on their model, as it is really
good and powerful. I am not sure however, whether, it provides the right
level of scalability for NLP.
Looking at:
http://de.slideshare.net/paolociccarese/open-annotation-specifiers-and-specific-resources-tutorial
There are 3 important things missing:
- inclusion of the actual text in the web service request
- providing best practices for identifiers, e.g.
http://purl.org/olia/penn.owl#DT
- reducing the number of URNs and triples
This is where NIF comes in. (If you are in doubt, please try to create
an OA example where a simple sentence is POS annotated over a web service).
Regarding Ruperts problem with backward compatibility.
In a first step, it should be enough to build an RDF parser/serializer
based on the new OWL file.
I didn't yet understand, what is meant exactly by "Stanbol Enhancement
Structure"[1].
Is this the OWL file for serializing annotations (e.g. for use in
SPARQL) or does it describe the internal structure of the Stanbol Java
Framework?
I think the second one can stay as it is for now and then the new
structure should be created (as serialization format) meanwhile with the
clear aim to replace the former in the future. This would give all
clients enough time to adapt.
What do you think?
All the best,
Sebastian
[1]
http://stanbol.apache.org/docs/trunk/components/enhancer/enhancementstructure.html
Am 23.05.2013 14:12, schrieb Reto Bachmann-Gmür:
Hi Sebastian
Are you aware of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STANBOL-351?
Rtaher than doing telcos we should discus things on the list.
Cheers,
Reto
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Sebastian Hellmann <
hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
Hi all,
we created an OWL schema called NLP Interchange Format(NIF), which
leverages Apache Stanbols FISE ontology.
Recent documentation is here:
http://svn.aksw.org/papers/**2013/ISWC_NIF/public.pdf<http://svn.aksw.org/papers/2013/ISWC_NIF/public.pdf>
Personally, I think the general structure (using URN for each annotation)
is quite good, but I am a little bit unhappy with some facts:
1. URL persistence: when will the FISE ontology move from IKS to the
Apache Stanbol namespace. In my opinion, sooner is better. The longer it is
out there, the more side effects it will cause:
http://xkcd.com/1172/
2. Some issues need discussions and some streamlining. I would be happy to
be of assistance and would offer to hold some Ontology telcos to get it
straight.
http://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/stanbol/trunk/enhancer/**
generic/servicesapi/src/main/**resources/fise.owl<http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/stanbol/trunk/enhancer/generic/servicesapi/src/main/resources/fise.owl>
e.g.
- start and end have xsd:int limiting it to a 4GB text file
- extracted-from might not need to be functional. Also there might be a
relation to prov:wasDerivedFrom
These issues all need discussion however.
Any ideas on how to proceed?
All the best,
Sebastian
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Events: NLP & DBpedia 2013 (http://nlp-dbpedia2013.blogs.aksw.org,
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