Hi Rafa

Finally we have been able to get it working

We modified file "namespaceprefix.mappings" with two entries below

*'dbpedia-owl\thttp://dbpedia.org/ontology/\n*
*'dbpprop\thttp://dbpedia.org/property/\n*
*
*
Also we modified file "mappings.txt" with below two enteries

dbpedia-owl:*
dbpprop:*

And then we performed indexing and we were thenable to get indexes created
for additional data we wanted from DBpedia RDF

We then ran into issue similar to already reported jira issue
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STANBOL-519
We followed steps to resolve this issue and then everything is working

Thanks a lot for your prompt responses and giving us your valuable pointers
to isolate the problem area

best regards,
tarandeep


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Sawhney, Tarandeep Singh <
tsawh...@innodata.com> wrote:

> Thanks Rafa
>
> I am querying my reference site through
> http://localhost:9090/entityhub/site/<MyReferencesiteName>/find
>
> and now entered LDPath as below including dbp-ont prefix
>
> @prefix dbp-ont : <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/>;
> name = rdfs:label[@en] :: xsd:string;
> comment = rdfs:comment[@en] :: xsd:string;
> categories = dc:subject :: xsd:anyURI;
> homepage = foaf:homepage :: xsd:anyURI;
> location = fn:concat("[",geo:lat,",",geo:long,"]") :: xsd:string;
> foafname = foaf:name :: xsd:string;
> abstract = dbp-ont:abstract[@en] :: xsd:string;
> type = rdf:type :: xsd:anyURI;
> foundedBy = dbp-ont:foundedBy :: xsd:anyURI;
>
> But still it doesnt get me data i have added for "foundedBy" and
> "abstract" fields
>
> Is this you wanted me to try or you meant something else
>
> I am still not sure where the problem lies :-(  whether indexes are
> created or accessing them has an issue.
>
> best regards,
> tarandeep
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@zaizi.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tarandeep,
>>
>> Have you included dbp-ont as prefix for http://dbpedia.org/ontology/ in
>> your LDPath program? According to ldpath documentation (
>> https://code.google.com/p/**ldpath/wiki/PathLanguage<https://code.google.com/p/ldpath/wiki/PathLanguage>)
>> dbp-ont is not included as default prefix, so you might need to start your
>> program with:
>>
>> @prefix dbp-ont : <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/>**;
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rafa
>>
>> El 18/07/13 15:24, Sawhney, Tarandeep Singh escribió:
>>
>>> Hi Rafa,
>>>
>>> Thanks for giving the pointer to resolve the issue. We tried below
>>> mentioned step but now the issue seems to be in how we are indexing.
>>>
>>> As you suggested we verified if we have the required indexes for
>>> additional
>>> fields in our reference site. We found out, that indexer had created all
>>> indexes except for fields in "dbpedia-owl<http://dbpedia.**
>>> org/ontology/foundedBy <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/foundedBy>>
>>> *:http://dbpedia.org/ontology/**"; *namespace
>>> *
>>> *
>>> For example, Please look at RDF ---> http://dbpedia.org/page/Adidas
>>>
>>> When we query our reference site for entity "Adidas", we are able to see
>>> all indexes except for fields in *dbpedia-owl* namespace
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>>> Below are the LDPaths we used while querying our reference site.
>>>
>>> *
>>> name = rdfs:label[@en] :: xsd:string;
>>> comment = rdfs:comment[@en] :: xsd:string;
>>> categories = dc:subject :: xsd:anyURI;
>>> homepage = foaf:homepage :: xsd:anyURI;
>>> location = fn:concat("[",geo:lat,",",geo:**long,"]") :: xsd:string;
>>> foafname = foaf:name :: xsd:string;
>>> abstract = dbp-ont:abstract[@en] :: xsd:string;
>>> type = rdf:type :: xsd:anyURI;
>>> foundedBy = dbp-ont:foundedBy :: xsd:anyURI;
>>> *
>>>
>>> We can see data for everything except for "abstract" and "foundedBy"
>>> since
>>> they are in namespace *dbpedia-owl <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/**
>>> foundedBy <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/foundedBy>>*
>>>
>>>
>>> So it means indexes for above two fields were not created by indexer and
>>> therefore we dont have them in the reference site and hence cant see them
>>> when entity is linked
>>>
>>> We have not changed any default settings while running indexer
>>>
>>> Can you please provide further help in order to find out what we are
>>> missing
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> tarandeep
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@zaizi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Tarandeep,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, it's quite more clear now :-). Have you check if the information
>>>> you need (for example dbp-ont:capital) is actually in the index?. You
>>>> can
>>>> check it for example looking for "India" entity directly in your custom
>>>> DBpedia site in the EntityHub.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> El 18/07/13 12:30, Sawhney, Tarandeep Singh escribió:
>>>>
>>>>  No problems Rafa, may be i didnt explain with details/clarity.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are using custom ontology to extract custom entities from text and
>>>>> then
>>>>> we want to them to link with DBpedia entities (in local dbpedia
>>>>> reference
>>>>> site).
>>>>>
>>>>> We found dbpedia reference doesnt have enough data that we need, so
>>>>> decided
>>>>> to download additional data for selected entities (related to fashion
>>>>> brands, fashion designers, company names) directly from dbpedia.org
>>>>>
>>>>> We then indexed these individual RDF files and created indexes with new
>>>>> reference site
>>>>>
>>>>> We then did not use DBpedia reference site, instead used our new
>>>>> reference
>>>>> site which has dbpedia data that we need with our new Entityhub linking
>>>>> engine
>>>>>
>>>>> But after we followed steps i mentioned in my earlier email, during
>>>>> enhancement, custom entities are getting de-referenced from my new
>>>>> reference site but i dont see additional data that i needed which
>>>>> exists
>>>>> in
>>>>> local cache.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this explains what we are trying to do, please let me know if some
>>>>> more information is required.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> tarandeep
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@zaizi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi Tarandeep,
>>>>>
>>>>>> El 18/07/13 11:18, Sawhney, Tarandeep Singh escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Hi Rafa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your response
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, we have tried the whole URI of the property (
>>>>>>> http://dbpedia.org/ontology/********capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/******capital>
>>>>>>> <http://dbpedia.**org/ontology/****capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/****capital>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> <http://dbpedia.org/****ontology/**capital<http://dbpedia.org/**ontology/**capital>
>>>>>>> <http://**dbpedia.org/ontology/**capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/**capital>
>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>> )<http://dbpedia.org/******ontology/capital<http://dbpedia.org/****ontology/capital>
>>>>>>> <http://**dbpedia.org/**ontology/capital<http://dbpedia.org/**ontology/capital>
>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <http://**dbpedia.org/**ontology/capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/capital>
>>>>>>> <http://**dbpedia.org/ontology/capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/capital>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> )>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> but it didn't help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes we are using EntityHub cache to locally store with all the
>>>>>>> additional
>>>>>>> information we pulled from Dbpedia.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the documentation provided at
>>>>>>> http://stanbol.apache.org/******docs/trunk/customvocabulary.****
>>>>>>> **html<http://stanbol.apache.org/****docs/trunk/customvocabulary.****html>
>>>>>>> <http://stanbol.apache.**org/**docs/trunk/**customvocabulary.**html<http://stanbol.apache.org/**docs/trunk/customvocabulary.**html>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> <http://stanbol.apache.**org/**docs/trunk/**customvocabulary.**html<
>>>>>>> http://stanbol.apache.**org/docs/trunk/**customvocabulary.html<http://stanbol.apache.org/docs/trunk/customvocabulary.html>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it is mentioned --->
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Optionally, if your data do use namespaces that are not present in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> prefix.cc (or the server used for indexing does not have internet
>>>>>>> connectivity) you can manually define required prefixes by
>>>>>>> creating/using
>>>>>>> the a indexing/config/******namespaceprefix.mappings file
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> Can we get some inputs on if some changes to this file are required
>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>> using DBpedia data
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   This file can be used at 'indexing time' when you use the indexing
>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> for creating the index for the DBpedia site. I have just seen that
>>>>>> dbp-ont
>>>>>> is already included as prefix. What I don't have clear right now is if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> are generating your own dbpedia index including all the dbpedia
>>>>>> ontology
>>>>>> properties (that should be a enormous index) or if you are generating
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> index each time you need a new entity or even you are trying to
>>>>>> retrieve
>>>>>> the entities from dbpedia in a 'live' way :-). Sorry I'm confused
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> your workflow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Also, looks like we are missing on some configurations in the
>>>>>> overall
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> process, so if dev community can please provide help, it will be much
>>>>>>> appreciated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>> tarandeep
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@zaizi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Hi Tarandeep,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Have you tried using the whole URI of the property (
>>>>>>>> http://dbpedia.org/ontology/********capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/******capital>
>>>>>>>> <http://dbpedia.**org/ontology/****capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/****capital>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> <http://dbpedia.org/****ontology/**capital<http://dbpedia.org/**ontology/**capital>
>>>>>>>> <http://**dbpedia.org/ontology/**capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/**capital>
>>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>> )<http://dbpedia.org/******ontology/capital<http://dbpedia.org/****ontology/capital>
>>>>>>>> <http://**dbpedia.org/**ontology/capital<http://dbpedia.org/**ontology/capital>
>>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> <http://**dbpedia.org/**ontology/capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/capital>
>>>>>>>> <http://**dbpedia.org/ontology/capital<http://dbpedia.org/ontology/capital>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> )>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, maybe it is a better idea to change your workflow, because I
>>>>>>>> suppose that your example about "India" entity is something that
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> happen to you with more entities because the default DBpedia site in
>>>>>>>> Stanbol doesn't contain information about dbp-ont properties. I
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> suggest to use EntityHub cache to locally store entities with all
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> information you need directly from DBpedia. So, maybe you can try to
>>>>>>>> directly retrieve the entities from any DBpedia endpoint, store
>>>>>>>> them in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> EntityHub cache to ensure that you can use it later as your
>>>>>>>> convenience.
>>>>>>>> Maybe the workflow could be the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Enhance a document using Stanbol DBpedia site for linking.
>>>>>>>> 2. For each extracted entity:
>>>>>>>>            2.1. If the entity is already store in the EntityHub,
>>>>>>>> get it
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> LDPath for dereferencing.
>>>>>>>>            2.2. If not, retrieve the entity from DBpedia endpoint
>>>>>>>> as RDF
>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>> and store it in the EntityHub. Then retrieve it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would day that this is currently possible in Stanbol, but maybe
>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>> else in the list can give you more light with the issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> El 18/07/13 09:48, Sawhney, Tarandeep Singh escribió:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  In the stanbol local cache we have limited triples in dbpedia
>>>>>>>>> reference
>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have a need to get more triples for entities which are present
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> dbpedia
>>>>>>>>> reference site. For example entity "India" has limited triples, so
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> enhance text which has india, it gets us only information which is
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> dbpedia reference site.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have followed below mentioned steps to add more RDF data for
>>>>>>>>> entity
>>>>>>>>> "India" by creating our own reference site.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1 - Downloaded rdf-data for 'India' from [1].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2 - Generated indexes for this rdf-data as suggested in article [2]
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> *Demo
>>>>>>>>> *as a reference site name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3-  Initialized indexes within stanbol instance  as per [2].
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4-  Configured new EntityLinking engine, '*demoLinkingEngine*' with
>>>>>>>>> *Demo
>>>>>>>>> *as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> referenced site as per [3].
>>>>>>>>>          I have added *dbp-ont:capital *in *'"Fields used for
>>>>>>>>> derefrencing*
>>>>>>>>> "option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5- Configured new weighted chain (*demoChain*).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 6 - Now i am trying to enhance *"India is a country."* I am getting
>>>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as de-reference entity but unable to get any new information
>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>> to *dbp-ont:capital
>>>>>>>>> *which exists in my new reference site *Demo, *which in this case
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> give us URI value of "New Delhi"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://dbpedia.org/page/India
>>>>>>>>> [2] http://stanbol.apache.org/********docs/trunk/customvocabulary.
>>>>>>>>> ******<http://stanbol.apache.org/******docs/trunk/customvocabulary.****>
>>>>>>>>> **html<http://stanbol.apache.**org/****docs/trunk/**
>>>>>>>>> customvocabulary.****html<http://stanbol.apache.org/****docs/trunk/customvocabulary.****html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> <http://stanbol.apache.**org/****docs/trunk/****
>>>>>>>>> customvocabulary.**html<http:/**/stanbol.apache.org/**docs/**
>>>>>>>>> trunk/customvocabulary.**html<http://stanbol.apache.org/**docs/trunk/customvocabulary.**html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> <http://stanbol.apache.**org/****docs/trunk/****
>>>>>>>>> customvocabulary.**html<
>>>>>>>>> http://stanbol.apache.**org/**docs/trunk/**customvocabulary.**
>>>>>>>>> html<http://stanbol.apache.**org/docs/trunk/**
>>>>>>>>> customvocabulary.html<http://stanbol.apache.org/docs/trunk/customvocabulary.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>>> http://stanbol.apache.org/********docs/trunk/components/****<http://stanbol.apache.org/******docs/trunk/components/****>
>>>>>>>>> <h**ttp://stanbol.apache.org/******docs/trunk/components/****<http://stanbol.apache.org/****docs/trunk/components/****>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> enhancer/engines/**<http://**s**tanbol.apache.org/**docs/**<http://stanbol.apache.org/**docs/**>
>>>>>>>>> trunk/components/**enhancer/****engines/**<http://stanbol.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/**docs/trunk/**components/**enhancer/engines/****<http://stanbol.apache.org/**docs/trunk/components/**enhancer/engines/**>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> entityhublinking<http://****stan**bol.apache.org/docs/**trunk/**<http://bol.apache.org/docs/trunk/**>
>>>>>>>>> <http://stanbol.**apache.org/docs/trunk/**<http://stanbol.apache.org/docs/trunk/**>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> components/enhancer/engines/******entityhublinking<http://**
>>>>>>>>> stanbol.apache.org/docs/trunk/****components/enhancer/engines/****<http://stanbol.apache.org/docs/trunk/**components/enhancer/engines/**>
>>>>>>>>> entityhublinking<http://**stanbol.apache.org/docs/trunk/**
>>>>>>>>> components/enhancer/engines/**entityhublinking<http://stanbol.apache.org/docs/trunk/components/enhancer/engines/entityhublinking>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you please let me know if i am doing something wrong here or
>>>>>>>>> missing
>>>>>>>>> some configurations.
>>>>>>>>> Please let me know in case you need some more information on how we
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> trying to do it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>> tarandeep
>>>>>>>>>
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