Hi,

I will gather all the documentation I have, create some comments on what I
don't really understand and essentially got to work on a trial-error basis
and then I will send these to everyone. I will also outline in the same
email some features I don't understand, some features that I think are
useful but don't know how to configure/ not sure if they are actually fully
implemented and a list of items that I came across that no longer apply/are
deprecated.

Regards,
Antero

On Fri, 20 May 2016 at 11:39 Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:

> HI Antero,
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:23 PM Antero Duarte <a.fduar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Stanbol is great and I would hate to see it die.
> >
>
> Couldn't be more agree!
>
> >
> > About the lack of feedback from users/developers, I can only say that it
> > took quite a while for me to be able to reply to someone on this mailing
> > list because the learning curve is so steep. I bet a lot of people still
> > read and are interested in stanbol updates, but they just don't have the
> > technical know-how to be involved. I include myself in this group, I have
> > answered a couple of questions, but only really basic ones, as I fear my
> > knowledge of the platform as a whole doesn't allow me to answer more
> > complicated questions.
> >
> > I think one step that definitely needs to be taken is improving/updating
> > the existing documentation. I know for a fact that one thing that really
> > put me off when I first started using stanbol was the that there was
> > documentation that was unclear, examples that were unable to be
> reproduced
> > for several reasons, and outdated documents that referenced components
> that
> > no longer existed in the latest stable release of stanbol (I'm not even
> > talking about the latest build from trunk).
> >
>
> That's true again imho. Also Development documentation, not only final user
> one is needed. And probably some work on making the APIs more
> comprehensible.
>
>
> >
> > I have a couple of documents that I have written over time that made it
> > easier for me to understand how stanbol works and I could share these but
> > they would need to be reviewed by someone who understands stanbol a lot
> > better than me.
> >
>
> Please share, for sure we can all take benefit from it and improve the
> documentation
>
>
> >
> > I understand that you have busy lives and as developers, you'd rather use
> > the little time you have to code than to write documentation, but if we
> can
> > make stanbol more approachable to newcomers, I believe the developer pool
> > would increase greatly and we could make Stanbol great again.
> >
>
> +1. It would be great to have also concrete examples about what features,
> components and son on are not clear enough or just deprecated in the
> current live documentation so we can start by those
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
>
> >
> > My two cents.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Antero Duarte
> >
> > On Fri, 20 May 2016 at 10:26 Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Soroka,
> > >
> > > First of all, reading this kind of emails is, in my opinion, a cause of
> > > happiness as a new attempt to somehow reactivate the project. I share
> the
> > > same feeling about Apache Stanbol since sometime ago. More than one
> month
> > > ago, there was a Google Hangout meeting joined by some committers and
> > also
> > > users. We tried to sketch an immediate roadmap and planned to release
> > > version 1.0 in the following weeks after that meeting. We sent an email
> > to
> > > the list with the meeting minutes, but after that there was a lot of
> > > silence again.
> > >
> > > Probably the main problem right now is probably the lack of quality
> time
> > to
> > > dedicate to the project for the current active committers. I can only
> > speak
> > > for myself: in my particular case, in the last year I have used Stanbol
> > for
> > > a couple of projects, we developed a couple of custom engines that we
> can
> > > prepare for contribution, but we never found the proper time to do
> this,
> > > among other things because we didn't have clear if those engines could
> be
> > > useful for the community. And that is probably another symptom, we have
> > > been progressively losing feedback from users, developers....community:
> > > there are less and less messages in the mailing list every month. This
> > > scenario is probably not too much motivating for aiming contributions
> and
> > > finding new committers. There are probably more reasons, like Stanbol
> is
> > > not technically very friendly to be approached.
> > >
> > > Of course I'm not saying this situation is someone fault. I'm not very
> > sure
> > > about the best recipe for improving the situation either.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 5:49 PM A. Soroka <aj...@virginia.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, Stanbol folks!
> > > >
> > > > I'm writing to you on behalf of the community of Fedora Commons (
> > > > http://fedora-commons.org). Fedora is an information architecture
> with
> > > > open source reference implementation that has come into wide use over
> > the
> > > > last fifteen years in the "cultural heritage" world of libraries,
> > > archives,
> > > > museums, etc. For many years, we've been intensely concerned with the
> > > ideas
> > > > that go under the loose label of "the Semantic Web". In fact, the
> > latest
> > > > edition of Fedora is an Linked Data Platform implementation, amongst
> > > other
> > > > things.
> > > >
> > > > Several institutions using Fedora are also using Stanbol for various
> > > tasks
> > > > (supporting OpenRefine, metadata entity management, NER, etc.), and
> > some
> > > > discussion has occurred about its state and future potential. It's
> not
> > > > totally clear to us what kind of development community and commitment
> > > > therefrom currently exists. There has been discussion about a 1.0
> > release
> > > > of Stanbol, but there doesn't seem to be much other activity in the
> > > > codebase, with very few of the listed committers making commits.
> > > >
> > > > We were wondering if it is possible to get a better sense of the
> > > > near-mid-term future of the project. Is there a road map beyond the
> 1.0
> > > > release? Is Stanbol seeking new developers? What kinds of resources
> are
> > > > missing to put more vitality back into Stanbol? It's an excellent
> > project
> > > > filled with great ideas and we'd like to see it move forward.
> > > >
> > > > We'd be happy to get together for a telephone call / Google Hangout /
> > > > other meeting, if that seems useful!
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > A. Soroka
> > > > The University of Virginia Library
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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