Hi,
Did we find a way to comment on the proposal? How can we proceed with this
discussion?

Thanks,
Satish.


On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Jungtaek Lim <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've made a design document for adding jars and maven artifacts at
> submission.
> Since we don't have any formats for this, I just borrowed KIP format.
> That's not we would like to adopt that format, it's just me.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f3Ed0Wa8aN2j7gtptT0BOKYMyBdpohLgERg4YebJJ7c/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Btw, I guess ASF policy requires that discussion history should be logged
> to Apache Infra.
> (So I only grant view permission who opens the doc via link.)
>
> So what's recommended way to do? Would we want to file an issue for JIRA
> with attaching design doc to PDF and discuss there?
>
> - Jungtaek Lim
>
> 2016년 7월 23일 (토) 오전 12:06, Jungtaek Lim <[email protected]>님이 작성:
>
> > Thought about it once more, and found that former approach still needs to
> > add 'provided' scope libraries to extlib directory..
> >
> > Along with thinking former approach, I've experimented a bit of latter
> > approach by creating POC project. Since I don't know about copy and use
> ASF
> > project codes for personal use, I'd just share main class to see if this
> > POC and my theory makes sense for us.
> > https://gist.github.com/HeartSaVioR/3639a9ee829fe1203b4a085a0fb069d6
> > 'zeppelin' package has some classes for transitive dependency resolver
> > (copied from Zeppelin), and 'spark' package has some classes for
> > classloader (yes also copied from Spark).
> >
> > Please share your experiences if you have knowledges regarding this area.
> >
> > - Jungtaek Lim
> >
> > 2016년 7월 22일 (금) 오후 10:59, Bobby Evans <[email protected]>님이
> 작성:
> >
> >> You can do that with a combination of the distributed cache and setting
> >> the classpath, just like with hadoop.  It is not as clean as it could
> be,
> >> but it does work. - Bobby
> >>
> >>     On Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:09 PM, Arun Mahadevan <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>  Shade and relocate the external modules sounds ok as a short term
> >> solution.
> >>
> >> For the long term we should consider something like the second option to
> >> add external modules without shipping uber jars.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Arun
> >>
> >> On 7/22/16, 6:07 AM, "Jungtaek Lim" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi devs,
> >> >
> >> >AFAIK, we had been struggled to resolve dependency issues for
> storm-core.
> >> >As we all know, the strategy we have been using is shade & relocating.
> >> >
> >> >Now State and Storm SQL requires that some of external modules need to
> be
> >> >included to extlib, which is the classpath workers refer.
> >> >
> >> >http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-1881
> >> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STORM-1435
> >> >
> >> >There're two issues here:
> >> >- We don't make uber jar for external modules so users need to find and
> >> >copy dependencies jars to extlib manually.
> >> >- External modules also use Guava and Jackson and so on which are
> origin
> >> of
> >> >version conflict issues.
> >> >
> >> >So we should apply the shade & relocating strategy for every external
> >> >modules (at least storm-redis, storm-kafka, storm-sql-core,
> >> >storm-sql-kafka), or introduce the way to add the dependency without
> >> adding
> >> >them to extlib. (like --packages and --jar for Spark)
> >> >
> >> >Please express your opinions about this.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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