I'm not sure. Topology code can't be restored, so my best bet would be
detecting it (periodically, or react in failure) and give up leadership.
If my memory is right, leader Nimbus doesn't pull blobs from followers, so
if it doesn't have any blobs and need to sync, it just needs to become
follower and let other nimbuses to take a chance to be a leader.

It would not help for non-HA Nimbus cluster anyway. What's next? Maybe we
could remove related topology (from ZK), but it feels me a bit dangerous to
do it automatically, so I'd rather leaning on CLI (maybe) tool so that
operators can do it manually.

Please file an issue regarding this when you would want to have a solution.

Best regards,
Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)

2017년 8월 25일 (금) 오전 6:29, Alexandre Vermeerbergen <avermeerber...@gmail.com>님이
작성:

> Hello Jungtaek,
>
> I confirm that we currently do not have multiple Nimbus nodes.
>
> I want to clarify that Nimbus process never crashed : it keep printing in
> its log the error:
>
> 2017-08-06 03:44:01.777 o.a.s.t.ProcessFunction pool-14-thread-1 [ERROR]
> Internal error processing getClusterInfo
> org.apache.storm.generated.KeyNotFoundException: null
> ... (rest of the stack trace)
>
> However I forgot to mention that:
>
> * During this problem our topologies are unaffected
> * We notice the problem because we have a self-healing check on Nimbus-UI
> process which consists in calling Web Services to get a few stats on
> running topologies. But when Nimbus-UI is unresponsive, we kill it and
> restart it automatically.
> * The period of our NimbusUI self healing cron is 1 minute
> * When the getClusterInfo stack trace occurs on Nimbus log, Nimbus UI is
> unable to restart
> * Here's the kind of exceptions we see in ui.log  (Nimbus UI's trace):
>
> 2017-08-24 21:24:21.777 o.a.s.u.core main [INFO] Starting ui server for
> storm version '1.1.0'
> 2017-08-24 21:24:21.788 o.a.s.d.m.MetricsUtils main [INFO] Using statistics
> reporter
> plugin:org.apache.storm.daemon.metrics.reporters.JmxPreparableReporter
> 2017-08-24 21:24:21.790 o.a.s.d.m.r.JmxPreparableReporter main [INFO]
> Preparing...
> 2017-08-24 21:24:21.801 o.a.s.d.common main [INFO] Started statistics
> report plugin...
> 2017-08-24 21:24:21.878 o.a.s.s.o.e.j.s.Server main [INFO]
> jetty-7.x.y-SNAPSHOT
> 2017-08-24 21:24:21.929 o.a.s.s.o.e.j.s.h.ContextHandler main [INFO]
> started o.a.s.s.o.e.j.s.ServletContextHandler{/,null}
> 2017-08-24 21:24:21.965 o.a.s.s.o.e.j.s.AbstractConnector main [INFO]
> Started SelectChannelConnector@0.0.0.0:8070
> 2017-08-24 21:25:02.446 o.a.s.u.NimbusClient qtp2142536057-19 [WARN]
> Ignoring exception while trying to get leader nimbus info from
> ec2-52-48-59-151.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com. will retry with a
> different seed host.
> org.apache.storm.thrift.transport.TTransportException: null
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.thrift.transport.TIOStreamTransport.read(TIOStreamTransport.java:132)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
> org.apache.storm.thrift.transport.TTransport.readAll(TTransport.java:86)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.thrift.transport.TFramedTransport.readFrame(TFramedTransport.java:129)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.thrift.transport.TFramedTransport.read(TFramedTransport.java:101)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
> org.apache.storm.thrift.transport.TTransport.readAll(TTransport.java:86)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.thrift.protocol.TBinaryProtocol.readAll(TBinaryProtocol.java:429)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.thrift.protocol.TBinaryProtocol.readI32(TBinaryProtocol.java:318)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.thrift.protocol.TBinaryProtocol.readMessageBegin(TBinaryProtocol.java:219)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
> org.apache.storm.thrift.TServiceClient.receiveBase(TServiceClient.java:77)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
> org.apache.storm.generated.Nimbus$Client.recv_getLeader(Nimbus.java:1193)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
> org.apache.storm.generated.Nimbus$Client.getLeader(Nimbus.java:1181)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.utils.NimbusClient.getConfiguredClientAs(NimbusClient.java:84)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at org.apache.storm.ui.core$cluster_summary.invoke(core.clj:355)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at org.apache.storm.ui.core$fn__9556.invoke(core.clj:1113)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.shade.compojure.core$make_route$fn__5976.invoke(core.clj:100)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
> org.apache.storm.shade.compojure.core$if_route$fn__5964.invoke(core.clj:46)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
>
> org.apache.storm.shade.compojure.core$if_method$fn__5957.invoke(core.clj:31)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at
> org.apache.storm.shade.compojure.core$routing$fn__5982.invoke(core.clj:113)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at clojure.core$some.invoke(core.clj:2570) ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
>         at
> org.apache.storm.shade.compojure.core$routing.doInvoke(core.clj:113)
> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
>         at clojure.lang.RestFn.applyTo(RestFn.java:139)
> ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
>         at clojure.core$apply.invoke(core.clj:632) ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
>
> So our problem is that Nimbus stays forever in a inconsistent state without
> crashing, and if it would crash, then it would be helpless since we would
> have automatic restart of it (we also have a self healing on Nimbus) but
> again in such case we need to manually cleanup the content in the ZKs to be
> able to restart Nimbus in a clean state.
>
> My question is the following one: is there a way to make Nimbus more
> resilient to such issues?
>
> Best regards,
> Alexandre
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-08-24 23:06 GMT+02:00 Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Blob files (meta, data) are in storm local directory. ZK only has list of
> > blob keys and which alive nimbuses have that file. So if you lose storm
> > local directory, you just can't restore blobs, unless other nimbuses have
> > these blobs so current nimbus could pull.
> > (I guess you have only one nimbus, since replication factor was 1 in
> nimbus
> > log.)
> >
> > If FNF occurs while finding meta file, we just throw KeyNotFoundException
> > because it is just same as not exist.
> >
> > Anyway you have to clear up everything because there's inconsistency
> > between ZK and local, and no way to recover missed blob files so no way
> to
> > make it consistent.
> >
> > Btw, in this case, my expectation is that after crashing and restarting,
> > nimbus can't be a leader and just waits for missing blobs. If you saw
> > Nimbus crashed again while relaunching, it could be a bug.
> >
> > - Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> > On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 at 3:35 AM Alexandre Vermeerbergen <
> > avermeerber...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Jungtaek,
> > >
> > > I can do what you suggest (ie moving storm local dir to a place which
> > isn't
> > > in /tmp),but since the issue occurs rarely (once per month), I doubt
> I'll
> > > be able to feedback soon.
> > >
> > > What is puzzling to me is that in order to recover from such issue, we
> > have
> > > to stop everything, then clean the Zookeepers, then restarts all Storm
> > > processes and finally restart our topologies. We don't clean the /tmp
> > > directory.
> > >
> > > Are you sure there's no relationships between Zookeeper contents and
> what
> > > is causing the following message to happen?
> > > "Internal error processing getClusterInfo"
> > > Best regards;
> > > Alexandre
> > >
> > > 2017-08-24 13:41 GMT+02:00 Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Sorry I meant reproduce, not replicate. :)
> > > >
> > > > 2017년 8월 24일 (목) 오후 8:34, Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
> > > >
> > > > > Alexandre,
> > > > >
> > > > > I found that your storm local dir is placed to "/tmp/storm" which
> > parts
> > > > or
> > > > > all could be removed at any time.
> > > > > Could you move the path to non-temporary place and try to
> replicate?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2017년 8월 24일 (목) 오후 6:40, Alexandre Vermeerbergen <
> > > > > avermeerber...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hello Jungtaek,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thank you very much for your answer.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Please find attached the full Nimbus log (gzipped) related to this
> > > > issue.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Please note that the last ERROR repeats forever until we "repair"
> > > Storm.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> From the logs, it could be that the issue began close to when a
> > > topology
> > > > >> was restarted (killed, then started)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Maybe this caused a corruption in Zookeeper. Is there anything
> > which I
> > > > >> can collect in our Zookeeper nodes/logs to help analysis?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best regards,
> > > > >> Alexandre
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2017-08-24 9:29 GMT+02:00 Jungtaek Lim <kabh...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi Alexandre, I missed this mail since I was on vacation.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I followed the stack trace but hard to analyze without context.
> Do
> > > you
> > > > >>> mind
> > > > >>> providing full nimbus log?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >>> Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 2017년 8월 16일 (수) 오전 4:12, Alexandre Vermeerbergen <
> > > > >>> avermeerber...@gmail.com>님이
> > > > >>> 작성:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Hello,
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Tomorrow I will have to restart the cluster on which I have
> this
> > > > issue
> > > > >>> with
> > > > >>> > Storm 1.1.0.
> > > > >>> > Is there are anybody interested in my running some commands to
> > get
> > > > more
> > > > >>> > logs before I repair this cluster?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Best regards,
> > > > >>> > Alexandre Vermeerbergen
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 2017-08-13 16:14 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Vermeerbergen <
> > > > >>> > avermeerber...@gmail.com
> > > > >>> > >:
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > > Hello,
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > I think it might be of interest for you Storm developers to
> > learn
> > > > >>> that I
> > > > >>> > > currently have a case of issue with Storm 1.1.0 which was
> > > supposed
> > > > to
> > > > >>> > > resolved in this release according to
> > https://issues.apache.org/
> > > > >>> > > jira/browse/STORM-1977 ; and I can look for any more
> > information
> > > > >>> which
> > > > >>> > > you'd need to make a diagnostic on why this issue still can
> > > happen.
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > Indeed, I have a Storm UI process which can't get any
> > information
> > > > on
> > > > >>> its
> > > > >>> > > Storm cluster, and I see many following exception in
> > nimbus.log:
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > 2017-08-02 05:11:15.971 o.a.s.d.nimbus pool-14-thread-21
> [INFO]
> > > > >>> Created
> > > > >>> > > download session for
> > > > >>> statefulAlerting_ec2-52-51-199-56-eu-west-1-compute-
> > > > >>> > > amazonaws-com_defaultStormTopic-29-1501650673-stormcode.ser
> > with
> > > > id
> > > > >>> > > d5120ad7-a81c-4c39-afc5-a7f876b04c73
> > > > >>> > > 2017-08-02 05:11:15.978 o.a.s.d.nimbus pool-14-thread-27
> [INFO]
> > > > >>> Created
> > > > >>> > > download session for
> > > > >>> statefulAlerting_ec2-52-51-199-56-eu-west-1-compute-
> > > > >>> > > amazonaws-com_defaultStormTopic-29-1501650673-stormconf.ser
> > with
> > > > id
> > > > >>> > > aba18011-3258-4023-bbef-14d21a7066e1
> > > > >>> > > 2017-08-02 06:20:59.208 o.a.s.d.nimbus timer [INFO] Cleaning
> > > inbox
> > > > >>> ...
> > > > >>> > > deleted: stormjar-fbdadeab-105d-4510-9beb-0f0d87e1a77d.jar
> > > > >>> > > 2017-08-06 03:42:02.854 o.a.s.t.ProcessFunction
> > pool-14-thread-34
> > > > >>> [ERROR]
> > > > >>> > > Internal error processing getClusterInfo
> > > > >>> > > org.apache.storm.generated.KeyNotFoundException: null
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> org.apache.storm.blobstore.LocalFsBlobStore.getStoredBlobMeta(
> > > > LocalFsBlobStore.java:147)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> org.apache.storm.blobstore.LocalFsBlobStore.getBlobReplication(
> > > > LocalFsBlobStore.java:299)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor78.
> > invoke(Unknown
> > > > >>> Source)
> > > > >>> > > ~[?:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > > > >>> > > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) ~[?:1.8.0_121]
> > > > >>> > >         at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
> > > > >>> > ~[?:1.8.0_121]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> clojure.lang.Reflector.invokeMatchingMethod(Reflector.java:93)
> > > > >>> > > ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> clojure.lang.Reflector.invokeInstanceMethod(Reflector.java:28)
> > > > >>> > > ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> org.apache.storm.daemon.nimbus$get_blob_replication_
> > > > count.invoke(nimbus.clj:489)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at org.apache.storm.daemon.
> > nimbus$get_cluster_info$iter__
> > > > >>> > > 10687__10691$fn__10692.invoke(nimbus.clj:1550)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at clojure.lang.LazySeq.sval(LazySeq.java:40)
> > > > >>> > > ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at clojure.lang.LazySeq.seq(LazySeq.java:49)
> > > > >>> > > ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at clojure.lang.RT.seq(RT.java:507)
> > > ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at clojure.core$seq__4128.invoke(core.clj:137)
> > > > >>> > > ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at clojure.core$dorun.invoke(core.clj:3009)
> > > > >>> > ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at clojure.core$doall.invoke(core.clj:3025)
> > > > >>> > ~[clojure-1.7.0.jar:?]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> > org.apache.storm.daemon.nimbus$get_cluster_info.
> > > > invoke(nimbus.clj:1524)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at org.apache.storm.daemon.nimbus$mk_reified_nimbus$
> > > > >>> > > reify__10782.getClusterInfo(nimbus.clj:1971)
> > > > >>> > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at org.apache.storm.generated.Nimbus$Processor$
> > > > >>> > > getClusterInfo.getResult(Nimbus.java:3920)
> > > > >>> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at org.apache.storm.generated.Nimbus$Processor$
> > > > >>> > > getClusterInfo.getResult(Nimbus.java:3904)
> > > > >>> ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> org.apache.storm.thrift.ProcessFunction.process(
> > > > ProcessFunction.java:39)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> > org.apache.storm.thrift.TBaseProcessor.process(
> > > > TBaseProcessor.java:39)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at org.apache.storm.security.
> > auth.SimpleTransportPlugin$
> > > > >>> > > SimpleWrapProcessor.process(SimpleTransportPlugin.java:162)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at org.apache.storm.thrift.server.
> > > > AbstractNonblockingServer$
> > > > >>> > > FrameBuffer.invoke(AbstractNonblockingServer.java:518)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> > org.apache.storm.thrift.server.Invocation.run(
> > Invocation.java:18)
> > > > >>> > > ~[storm-core-1.1.0.jar:1.1.0]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(
> > > > ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
> > > > >>> > > [?:1.8.0_121]
> > > > >>> > >         at
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(
> > > > ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
> > > > >>> > > [?:1.8.0_121]
> > > > >>> > >         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
> [?:1.8.0_121]
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > What is amazing is that I got this same issue on two Storm
> > > clusters
> > > > >>> > > running on different VMs ; just they share the same data in
> > they
> > > > >>> Kafka
> > > > >>> > > Broker cluster (one cluster is the production one, which was
> > > > quickly
> > > > >>> > fixed,
> > > > >>> > > and the other one is the "backup" cluster to be used if the
> > > > >>> production
> > > > >>> > one
> > > > >>> > > fails for quick "back to production")
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > If left one of these cluster with this behavior because I
> felt
> > > that
> > > > >>> it
> > > > >>> > > could be interesting for Storm developers to have more
> > > information
> > > > on
> > > > >>> > this
> > > > >>> > > issue, if needed to properly diagnose it.
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > I can keep this cluster as is for max 2 days.
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > Is there anything useful which I can collect on it to help
> > Storm
> > > > >>> > > developers to understand the cause (and hopefully use it to
> > make
> > > > >>> Storm
> > > > >>> > more
> > > > >>> > > robust) ?
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > Few details:
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > * Storm 1.1.0 cluster with Nimbus & NimbusUI running on a VM,
> > > and 4
> > > > >>> > > Supervisors VMs + 3 Zookeeper VMs
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > * Running with Java Server JRE 1.8.0_121
> > > > >>> > > * Running on AWS EC2 instances
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > * We run about 10 topologies, with automatic self-healing on
> > them
> > > > (if
> > > > >>> > they
> > > > >>> > > stop consuming Kafka items, our self-healer call "Kill
> > topology",
> > > > and
> > > > >>> > then
> > > > >>> > > eventually restarts the topology
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > * We have a self-healing on Nimbus UI based on calling its
> REST
> > > > >>> services.
> > > > >>> > > If it's not responding fast enough, we restart Nimbus UI
> > > > >>> > > * We figured out the issue because Nimbus UI was restarted
> > every
> > > 2
> > > > >>> > minutes
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > * To fix our production server which had the same symptom, we
> > had
> > > > to
> > > > >>> stop
> > > > >>> > > all Storm processes, then stop all Zookeepers, then remove
> all
> > > data
> > > > >>> in
> > > > >>> > > Zookeeper "snapshot files", then restart all Zookeeper, then
> > > > restart
> > > > >>> all
> > > > >>> > > Storm process, then re-submit all our topologies
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > Please be as clear as possible about which commands we should
> > run
> > > > to
> > > > >>> give
> > > > >>> > > you more details if needed
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > > Best regards,
> > > > >>> > > Alexandre Vermeerbergen
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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