Hi, 

I believe that we never reached a consensus on this thread. Can we make a 
decision on this ?  

I have changed my position to NOT support a channel at all. The reason is 
because all the user/dev discussion should go through the email list, and it is 
very easy to reach out to a particular contributor/committer using Gitter if it 
is necessary to have a more interactive discussion. Anyone with GitHub can use 
that account to login to Gitter. It is just a matter of coordinating with the 
contributor one is trying to chat with.

Currently the voting status is as follows:

Action                                     votes              voters(optional)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Add Gitter                                   2                   Satish
Remove IRC                               6                   Taylor, Bobby, 
Kyle, Hugo, Satish, Jungtaek
Do not support channel              1                    Hugo

Thanks,
Hugo 

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 4:31 AM, Satish Duggana <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> +1 to remove IRC channel. Slacck channel seems to be kind of closed and 
> everybody needs to be added and conversations are not open to public without 
> being member of that channel. Gitter is open and we can explore gitter if we 
> really want to have a live channel communication for users.
> 
> ~Satish.
> 
> On 7/20/17, 8:28 PM, "Jungtaek Lim" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>    I don't see the benefit of keeping IRC channel for users, so OK to remove
>    it from anywhere in Storm site or code repo.
> 
>    Btw, Apache Beam maintains Slack channel but it's likely for contributors
>    and committers. Personally I like the approach, but in order to make this
>    successful, many of us need to tolerate having one more interactive
>    (ping-able) channel. If they're dedicated to Storm project it doesn't
>    matter, but if not it might really matter.
> 
>    - Jungtaek Lim (HeartSaVioR)
> 
>    2017년 7월 20일 (목) 오후 11:30, Bobby Evans <[email protected]>님이 작성:
> 
>> Moving to the dev mailing list as it is more than just the PMC that
>> provides support for storm.
>> 
>> 
>> - Bobby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 6:27:12 PM CDT, Hugo Louro <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The first question is, do we want to provide chat support? It has the pro
>> of being more interactive, but the con of making info more disperse.
>> 
>> If the decision is to go with having an official chat, one can evaluate if
>> there are better chat and/or more integrated alternatives, e.g Gitter
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitter>.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Hugo
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Kyle Nusbaum <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We've had a #storm-user channel on Freenode forever, but we seem to have
>> almost totally abandoned it. We still direct users there on our website: 
>> http://storm.apache.org/
>> getting-help.html <http://storm.apache.org/getting-help.html> but the
>> information found in the channel is terribly out of date and incorrect.
>> 
>> 
>> I peek in there every once in a while, and users frequently show up with
>> questions. Probably many are going unanswered. I wonder if it makes our
>> project seem a little dead if the help channel we list on our web page is
>> so out of date and inactive.
>> 
>> Currently Nathan is the only user with permission to change anything. I
>> think we should either update the info on the channel and maybe try and do
>> something with it, or remove it from the website.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -- Kyle
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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