Thanks Gayan.

One another thing I see is that in the TopologyEventMessageDelegator, we
use a single thread to get messages from the queue and run them through the
TopologyMessageProcessorChain. This again would limit the ability to to
parallel updates to the Topology IMHO. To solve this, we can use a thread
pool to retrieve messages from the queue and run them through the
TopologyMessageProcessorChain, WDYT?

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Gayan Gunarathne <gay...@wso2.com> wrote:

> Hi Isuru,
>
> I mean that if you try to add the hierarchical locking with the topology
> update, it is better if we can have idea about how many siblings
> independently we can lock with updating topology.
> But if CC allows only the sequential access IMO we can't get advantage
> from the hierarchical locking.
>
> Thanks,
> Gayan
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Isuru Haththotuwa <isu...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gayan,
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Gayan Gunarathne <gay...@wso2.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> IMO it is based on how many siblings we have in the topology which we
>>> can lock independently. If we have lot of occurrences where we can able
>>> to lock the siblings independently it will improve the performance.But
>>> again I think we need to careful with the dead lock scenarios.
>>>
>> I did not understand your statement exactly. Can you please explain a bit
>> more?
>>
>> My understanding is, if CC allows only sequential access to its own
>> Topology model, then that will again be a bottleneck since CC is the one
>> who sends out the Topology events.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Gayan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Isuru Haththotuwa <isu...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another improvement that we can do is to introduce the same
>>>> hierarchical locking to the Topology structure maintained in the Cloud
>>>> Controller. Its actually the CC who will be updating the local Topology and
>>>> sending the relevant events. In that case, if we have have only one write
>>>> lock for the whole Topology in the CC's TopologyBuilder, it will still be a
>>>> bottleneck. WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Isuru Haththotuwa <isu...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the Topology is updated from the messaging component only, I
>>>>> removed the methods to access the write locks to an internal class. Those
>>>>> methods will not be exposed to outside by the messaging component. Now, 
>>>>> the
>>>>> following methods to obtain read-only locks are exposed from
>>>>> TopologyManager:
>>>>>
>>>>>     // Topology level read locks
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Acquires read lock for the Complete Topology
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void acquireReadLock() ;*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Releases read lock for the Complete Topology
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void releaseReadLock();*
>>>>>
>>>>>     // Application and Service read locks
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Acquires read lock for the all Applications
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void acquireReadLockForApplications() ;*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Releases read lock for the all Applications
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void releaseReadLockForApplications();*
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Acquires read lock for the all Services
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void acquireReadLockForServices();*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Releases read lock for the all Services
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void releaseReadLockForServices() ;*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Acquires read lock for a Service
>>>>>      *
>>>>>      * @param serviceName service name to acquire read lock
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void acquireReadLockForService (String serviceName)
>>>>> ;*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Releases read lock for a Service
>>>>>      *
>>>>>      * @param serviceName service name to release read lock
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void releaseReadLockForService (String serviceName)
>>>>> ;*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Acquires read lock for a Cluster. This will acquire the read
>>>>> lock in the following order
>>>>>      *      1. for the Service
>>>>>      *      2. for the Cluster
>>>>>      *
>>>>>      * @param serviceName service name to acquire read lock
>>>>>      * @param clusterId cluster id to acquire read lock
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void acquireReadLockForCluster (String serviceName,
>>>>> String clusterId);*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Releases read lock for a Cluster. This will release the read
>>>>> lock in the following order
>>>>>      *      1. for the Cluster
>>>>>      *      2. for the Service
>>>>>      *
>>>>>      * @param serviceName service name to release read lock
>>>>>      * @param clusterId cluster id to release read lock
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void releaseReadLockForCluster (String serviceName,
>>>>> String clusterId);*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Acquires read lock for the Application
>>>>>      *
>>>>>      * @param appId Application id
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void acquireReadLockForApplication (String appId) ;*
>>>>>
>>>>>     /**
>>>>>      * Releases read lock for the Application
>>>>>      *
>>>>>      * @param appId Application id
>>>>>      */
>>>>> *    public static void releaseReadLockForApplication (String appId);*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This looks great! As we discussed may be we could provide an
>>>>>> interface in the messaging component to acquire and release locks at
>>>>>> different sub tree levels. The whole idea is to avoid any possibilities 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> reading the topology in an inconsistent state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Isuru Haththotuwa <isu...@apache.org
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Imesh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have shown some examples for the new hierarchical locking
>>>>>>> approach. Please do let me know your feedback on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Acquire a write lock:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    From root level, acquire read lock, and acquire a write lock only
>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>    relevant sub tree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Acquire a read lock:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    From root level, acquire read locks till the relevant sub tree
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Examples -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Example 1: Acquiring write lock for a Cluster to modify the
>>>>>>> Cluster object -
>>>>>>>             acquiring:
>>>>>>>             1. acquire read lock for all Services
>>>>>>>             2. acquire read lock for the particular Service, to
>>>>>>> which the cluster belongs to
>>>>>>>             3. acquire write lock for the Cluster
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             releasing:
>>>>>>>             1. release write lock for the Cluster
>>>>>>>             2. release read lock for the particular Service
>>>>>>>             3. release read lock for all Services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Example 2: Acquiring write lock to add a new Cluster object -
>>>>>>>             acquiring:
>>>>>>>             1. acquire read lock for all Services
>>>>>>>             2. acquire write lock for the particular Service, to
>>>>>>> which the cluster belongs to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             releasing:
>>>>>>>             1. release write lock for the particular Service
>>>>>>>             2. release read lock for all Services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Example 3: Acquiring read lock to read Cluster information
>>>>>>>             acquiring:
>>>>>>>             1. acquire read lock for all Services
>>>>>>>             2. acquire read lock for the particular Service, to
>>>>>>> which the cluster belongs to
>>>>>>>             3. acquire read lock for the relevant Cluster
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             releasing:
>>>>>>>             1. release read lock for the relevant Cluster
>>>>>>>             2. release read lock for the particular Service
>>>>>>>             3. release read lock for all Services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Example 4: Acquiring the write lock to add a deploy a Cartridge
>>>>>>> (add a new Service)
>>>>>>>             acquire:
>>>>>>>             1. acquire write lock for all Services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             release:
>>>>>>>             1. release write lock for all Services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In all of these examples, the lock acquiring happens from top of the
>>>>>>> tree to down. This is to avoid deadlocks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great! Thanks for the clarification Isuru!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes I agree, I think what we can do is, identify the sub trees that
>>>>>>>> will not break the consistency of the data structure and manage locks 
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> those sub tree level.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Isuru Haththotuwa <
>>>>>>>> isu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Lahiru and Imesh,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the input.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I do here is locking only the relevant sub tree of the
>>>>>>>>> complete Topology tree, as locking the whole tree is rather 
>>>>>>>>> inefficient.
>>>>>>>>> For an example, when a MemberActivated event is received, we have the
>>>>>>>>> cluster id of the cluster that particular member belongs to. IMHO, we 
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> need to acquire the write lock for that cluster , and do not need the 
>>>>>>>>> lock
>>>>>>>>> for complete Topology tree. Therefore, any other thread which needs 
>>>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>>>> another operation on a separate sub tree (for an example, deploy a new
>>>>>>>>> service, etc.) can do that concurrently.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan <
>>>>>>>>> lahi...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Isuru,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like a good move to improve the efficiency,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Isuru Haththotuwa <
>>>>>>>>>> isu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did the initial changes, at the testing phase now. For an
>>>>>>>>>>> example, if we need to add a new Service, we do not need to lock 
>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>> now. We an only acquire the write lock on Services, and add the 
>>>>>>>>>>> Service.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Service can be an element of a group or an app. So shouldn't we
>>>>>>>>>> lock complete application if we add/modify a service? Otherwise a 
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> thread might change parents/relationships otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AFAIK a Service gets created when we deploy a cartridge. An
>>>>>>>>> application/Group can refer a service. In the case of modifying an
>>>>>>>>> Application, we do need to lock the relevant clusters that belong to 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> Application. I implemented that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So generally i think we can bring down the locking level to
>>>>>>>>>> Application, but not the services. Also if we need to read any part, 
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> have to get the read lock for the whole topology, such that the 
>>>>>>>>>> receiver
>>>>>>>>>> get a particular snapshot of the topology as Imesh also mentioned.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we need to lock the complete Topology, we can still do that,
>>>>>>>>> such as in a Complete Topology event. But IMHO, if we know the exact 
>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>> (a particular Cluster, etc.) that we need to read/write, we do not 
>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>> lock the whole Topology.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If we need to modify a particular Service, can read lock the
>>>>>>>>>>> Services and acquire the write lock on the relevant Service and do 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> modification.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This support is there for Services, Cluster and Applications.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Manula Chathurika Thantriwatte <
>>>>>>>>>>> manu...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Isuru,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for the hierarchical locking approach. Using hierarchical
>>>>>>>>>>>> locking we can have more benefits [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://synapticnulship.com/blog/2013/03/08/comparison-chainlocker-vs-heirarchical-mutexes/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Isuru Haththotuwa <
>>>>>>>>>>>> isu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the current Topology implementation, we acquire read/write
>>>>>>>>>>>>> locks on Topology from the root level itself. For an example, if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modify a single Cluster object, we still need to acquire a write 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lock from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Topology root level. But, this is a costly operation. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specially, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Service Grouping changes, we would need to traverse through an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Application.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since an Application can be a recursive structure, it can be a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> consuming operation. in such a scenario, if we are to lock the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Topology, there will be many threads waiting on that lock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a solution, I think we can use hierarchical locking [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For an example, when you need to obtain the write lock for a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Application, you do not need to lock the whole tree, but can lock 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Application itself. However, still we need to get the read locks 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A separate Lock tree will be maintained for the Topology.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please share your feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://collaboration.cmc.ec.gc.ca/science/rpn/biblio/ddj/Website/articles/DDJ/2008/0801/071201hs01/071201hs01.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isuru H.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +94 716 358 048* <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Manula Chathurika Thantriwatte
>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc. : http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> email : manu...@wso2.com / man...@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> phone : +94 772492511
>>>>>>>>>>>> blog : http://manulachathurika.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://manulachathurika.blogspot.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Isuru H.
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://manulachathurika.blogspot.com/>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Lahiru Sandaruwan
>>>>>>>>>> Committer and PMC member, Apache Stratos,
>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer,
>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> email: lahi...@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954
>>>>>>>>>> blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus
>>>>>>>>>> linked-in:
>>>>>>>>>> http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> <http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Isuru H.
>>>>>>>>>> <http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146>
>>>>>>>>>> +94 716 358 048
>>>>>>>>>> <http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146>*
>>>>>>>>>> <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Imesh Gunaratne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Technical Lead, WSO2
>>>>>>>> Committer & PMC Member, Apache Stratos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isuru H.
>>>>>>>> +94 716 358 048* <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Imesh Gunaratne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Technical Lead, WSO2
>>>>>> Committer & PMC Member, Apache Stratos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isuru H.
>>>>>> +94 716 358 048
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> <%2B94%20716%20358%20048>
>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isuru H.
>>>>>> <%2B94%20716%20358%20048>
>>>>>> +94 716 358 048* <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * <http://wso2.com/>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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>>> Technical Lead
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>
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>
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