On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Paul Fremantle <[email protected]> wrote:

> Can I propose we therefore go ahead with a vote and put together a
> resolution? I've taken a first pass at a resolution by basic cut and paste
> from previous.
>
> I'd also like to propose Lakmal as the potential VP.
>

Looks good. +1 from me.


>
> Paul
>
> Initial draft of Resolution:
>
>        Establish the Apache Stratos Project
>
>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>        interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>        Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>        Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>        open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>        the public, related to providing an implementation of a
>        Platform-as-a-Service foundation.
>
>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>        Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Stratos Project",
>        be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>        Foundation; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby is
>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>        related to providing an implementation of a Platform-as-a-Service
>        foundation; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Stratos" be
>        and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>        serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>        of the Apache Stratos Project, and to have primary responsibility
>        for management of the projects within the scope of
>        responsibility of the Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>        Apache Stratos Project:
>
>
>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXXXX
>        be appointed to the office of Vice President, Stratos, to
>        serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>        Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>        death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>        or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Stratos PMC be and hereby is
>        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>        encourage open development and increased participation in the
>        Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby
>        is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>        Incubator Stratos podling; and be it further
>
>        RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>        Incubator Stratos podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>        Project are hereafter discharged.
>
>
>
> On 26 March 2014 00:45, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Ross! That seems accurate to me. :)
>>
>>
>> On 26 March 2014 00:50, Ross Gardler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> My name came up and so my filters drew me to this interesting thread.
>>>
>>> Before I comment I should point out that I have not reviewed all the
>>> archives, only this thread. I should also point out that although I
>>> championed this project I did not take on a role as a mentor and have not
>>> been tracking the project. My opinion is therefore non-binding.
>>>
>>> Taking this thread as my only source of data I see no community
>>> related reason why the project should not move for graduation. There seems
>>> to be a little disconnect over what is required in reporting new committers
>>> etc. I hope mentors are addressing that and I trust mentors have ensured
>>> releases are being conducted correctly. But from a community perspective
>>> things look fine.
>>>
>>> Noah has asked whether the PMC is having issues with recognizing
>>> non-WSO2 contributions. Noah has not pointed to specific cases where this
>>> can be seen happening, he is merely raising it as a potential issue. From
>>> what I can tell Noah is more interested in having the PPMC think about
>>> and more clearly document the meritocratic process for this project. This
>>> is important, but need not be a blocker on graduation. The PPMC will
>>> eventually figure out that it needs to be done if the project is to
>>> succeed. Indeed, we see evidence of actions in the PPMC to directly address
>>> this.
>>>
>>> There is no requirement for diversity in an Apache project, only a
>>> requirement for the project to operate in a way that facilitates diversity.
>>> I see no evidence of Stratos avoiding diversity.
>>>
>>> Lets not forget that things can always be done better, our goal should
>>> not be perfection or projects would never graduate.
>>>
>>> Ross
>>>
>>>
>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>>> Senior Technology Evangelist
>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
>>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 March 2014 10:06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 23 March 2014 17:10, Lakmal Warusawithana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > All together we have done 9 votes, 6 for wso2 and 3 for non-wso2. (I
>>>>> know
>>>>> > some are still not announced but all vote are finalized, hence the
>>>>> current
>>>>> > status)
>>>>>
>>>>> Those numbers look much better.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Though I still don't think we should be talking about un-announced
>>>>> elections. These people may not accept yet, or the IPMC/board might
>>>>> reject the appointments, and that could be embarrassing for them. We
>>>>> have to be very circumspect about this sort of thing!)
>>>>>
>>>>> I still suspect we ought to wait a little while longer to see how this
>>>>> plays out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Its clear your view on this is to wait. That's fine - you are of course
>>>> entitled to your view. As a long time ASF Member I personally think your
>>>> view is rather narrow on this but obviously that's my biased view.
>>>>
>>>> According to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/stratos.html, there
>>>> are a bunch of mentors and of course we have Ross as the champion. What do
>>>> the rest of the mentors think?
>>>>
>>>>  Champion rgardler Ross Gardler Mentors azeez Afkham Azeez . smarruSuresh 
>>>> Marru.mpierceMarlon Pierce.chipchildersChip Childers.mnourMohammad 
>>>> Nour.nslaterNoah Slater.antelderAnt Elder
>>>> In an earlier reply to this thread Chip pretty much said he feels we're
>>>> good to go forward. However I will not put words in anyone's email! In any
>>>> case we need to hear from the other 6 mentors too.
>>>>
>>>> Sanjiva.
>>>> --
>>>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;  http://wso2.com/
>>>> email: [email protected]; office: (+1 650 745 4499 | +94  11 214 5345)
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>>>> blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/; twitter: @sanjiva
>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
>>
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