We are still waiting on the final list of PMC (the current PPMC - Marlon Pierce 
who choose to opt out) and also closing of podling name search [1]. It may be 
best to wait for Shane to formally approve this, what do others think?

Suresh

[1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-45

On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote:

> Fair enough Ant! :) Hadn't put the dates together like that. So thanks!
> 
> On 1 April 2014 15:46, ant elder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jims request to wait with no detail about why is a little unusual. He's
>> asked to wait till after ApacheCon which means after April 9. The graduation
>> decision happens at board meetings, the next of those is on April 16. Before
>> then there would usually be a podling vote and then an Incubator PMC vote.
>> So there is time to hold the two votes before the board meeting, but not
>> much spare time, and waiting till after ApacheCon would mean missing the
>> next board meeting. While i don't think there needs to be any rush i also
>> don't see any problem if the podling decides to go ahead now starting first
>> vote on the resolution proposal/chair/membership while waiting to find out
>> more about what Jims concerns might be.
>> 
>>   ...ant
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Suresh, are you not going to wait for Jim to clarify his perspective?
>>> 
>>> On 1 April 2014 14:32, Suresh Marru <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Catching up fully with this thread, I think its time for starting a PPMC
>>>> vote. I will wait for end of today to see any further open ended concerns,
>>>> if not I will start a vote if no one else beats me by then.
>>>> 
>>>> Suresh
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Paul Fremantle <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Noah
>>>>> 
>>>>> My apologies.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Removed any names
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Establish the Apache Stratos Project
>>>>> 
>>>>>       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>       open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>>>>       the public, related to providing an implementation of a
>>>>>       Platform-as-a-Service Framework.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>       Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Stratos Project",
>>>>>       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>       Foundation; and be it further
>>>>> 
>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby is
>>>>>       responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>       related to providing an implementation of a
>>>>> Platform-as-a-Service
>>>>>       Framework; and be it further
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Stratos" be
>>>>>       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>       of the Apache Stratos Project, and to have primary
>>>>> responsibility
>>>>>       for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>       responsibility of the Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
>>>>> 
>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>       Apache Stratos Project:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXXXXXXX
>>>>>       be appointed to the office of Vice President, Stratos, to
>>>>>       serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>       Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>       death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>       or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>> 
>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Stratos PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>       encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>       Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
>>>>> 
>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby
>>>>>       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>       Incubator Stratos podling; and be it further
>>>>> 
>>>>>       RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>       Incubator Stratos podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>>>       Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 26 March 2014 17:13, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> As Chip points out, it is premature to include anybody's name here
>>>>> yet, even provisionally. It should be removed from the draft, and a
>>>>> separate discussion started privately to address that topic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 26 March 2014 16:33, Paul Fremantle <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Updated proposal with the new wording. I've also provisionally put
>>>>>> Lakmal's
>>>>>> name in place as VP.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       Establish the Apache Stratos Project
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>>>>       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>>>>       open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>>>>>       the public, related to providing an implementation of a
>>>>>>       Platform-as-a-Service Framework.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>       Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Stratos Project",
>>>>>>       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>>>>       Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby is
>>>>>>       responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>       related to providing an implementation of a
>>>>>> Platform-as-a-Service
>>>>>>       Framework; and be it further
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Stratos" be
>>>>>>       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>>>>       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>>>>       of the Apache Stratos Project, and to have primary
>>>>>> responsibility
>>>>>>       for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>>>>       responsibility of the Apache Stratos Project; and be it
>>>>>> further
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>>>>       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>>>>       Apache Stratos Project:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Lakmal
>>>>>> Warusawithana
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       be appointed to the office of Vice President, Stratos, to
>>>>>>       serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>>>>       Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>>>>       death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>>>>       or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Stratos PMC be and hereby is
>>>>>>       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>>>>       encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>>>>       Apache Stratos Project; and be it further
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby
>>>>>>       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>>>>       Incubator Stratos podling; and be it further
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>>>>       Incubator Stratos podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>>>>       Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 26 March 2014 15:04, Chip Childers <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Paul Fremantle <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chip
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I tried to get round your concern with the phrase PaaS foundation.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>> an alternative would be PaaS framework?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "framework" seems like it might be best (IMO)...  the term's a bit
>>>>>>> overused, but it's probably a bit better understood than just
>>>>>>> "foundation".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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