Then post the diff as a "bug" ticket in bugzila.
Then a comitter just accepts and done.
.V
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I would like to update the powerpoint slides on the resources page, as indicated below.
Will a diff work on a ppt?! How do I get you the new file (just larger than 100kb limit).
cheers,
David
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Who owns/can update http://struts.apache.org/resources/articles.html?
The powerpoint slides are on there, but are an old version. How do I get it updated? I'm getting several requests for it, and it would be easier to stick it there!
cheers,
David
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Well, zip attachements aren't allowed, and ppt file is just over 100KB limit! I'll send it to you privately, Ken.
cheers,
David
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Ken,
I had the responsiblity of teach Struts to the rest of our group, and put together a powerpoint presentation that not only gives a general intro to struts, but shows graphically exactly how the request comes in from the web, the controller selects the formbean and action to use, the methods called etc.. Page 6 gives a general overview. Pages 8 & 9 gives specific examples.
Hopefully this will help (attached below). Let me know if you have any questions.
cheers,
David
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Hi Jim,
I was hoping to
avoid having to
read a book to write my first Struts app, which is basically
a small web
app to let a user search a database table according to one of
three sets
of search criteria. I thought this would be relatively simple. My
impression so far, however, is that Struts is way way way way more
complicated than I thought for this simple app. Perhaps I should just
write it without Struts and get a book to red and try Struts
next time.
It is relatevily simple. showSearchCriteria.do forwards to searchCriteria.jsp (The class could be the ForwardAction) searchCriteria.jsp has the fields for searching in. action goes to findRecords.do, which queries the database and forwards the results to foundRecorrds.jsp
Ken asks: My impression is that a something.do means a web page, like a JSP is involved. I don't understand this part about a jsp linking to an action that goes to findRecords.do. What does that represent? From what I understand to this moment, it represents a page, when it needs to work with a backend component to search the database. This may be part of the piece I'm missing.
So, 2 jsp pages, 2 actions (If you dont use ForwardAction).
If your search criteria are really three different searches, then you can put all three forms on one page, and use DispatchAction for the findRecords.do action class.
I thought EJBs were complex when I first learned them, but they have
NOTHING on Struts. Thanks again.
How do you figure?
Because, at least for me (and I grant that I'm much more at home in the business tier than the web tier), the workflow for an EJB (find it, create it, call it, remove it) is somewhat straightforward. I have yet to get the exact mechanics of how Struts works. I've seen a couple of diagrams but I need something more detailed that shows the exact flow through each little step. Do I need a Form? A FormBean? A regular bean? When? Where? I can't figure out how to answer these questions.
Note: this is NOT an attack on Struts. I haven't spent several days reading about it in order to be difficult in a mailing list. Struts may be a great framework once one figures it out.
Ken
Ken
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I did not notice any book recommendations in answers to your question, and frankly, I am not surprised. For learning a new technology I prefer a good, well-written and well-structured book to harvesting scattered web pages to critical pieces of information. Unfortunately, I have read three books and can not recommend any of those to you:
Mastering Jakarta Struts: elementary stuff, contains lots of errors, does not tell you how to implement non-trivial UI. Most is copy-paste from the apache.org documentation. Poorly structured content.
Jakarta-Struts Live: goes deeper into details and offers more advanced stuff. Unfortunately author's way of words (no O'Reilly style sophistication here) and the book's (lack of) structure mean that it is an absolute pain to read! Also, you end up fiddling with lots and lots of "neat" plugins and
helper applications (StrutsTestCase etc) for days before you get anywhere in the actual topic.
Programming Jakarta Struts: Perhaps the best structure out of these books. Unfortunately also covers just the basics and contains lots of copy-paste from the apache documentation. It seems that the author could not think of enough to write on Struts, so he blabbers on things such as "unit testing is good" and "performance is important". What is it with the techincal books and their mammoth syndrome? Does every book have to contain all the knowledge of the author? The examples are really irritating - incomplete and you wil not be able to follow them by writing your own application piece by piece, the only way is to get the sources from O'Reilly and compile them all since the code is so coupled. Also lot of the book concentrates on author's proprietary framework.
None of these was a catastrophe though, but all were a bit "so-so"....I have yet to find a _really good_ book.
buyFrom: "Kenneth Litwak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Learning the basics Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:22:33 -0700
If I'm an experienced developer, but new to Struts, do I need to
a book to write a basic app, or is there an online tutorial orsomething
like that that is sufficient? One of the things I'd like tofigure out
is to how to have three radio buttons, and a regular button,and have a
different action for each radio button. I can't figure outhow to wire
that. Thanks.
Ken
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