I have to agree with Ted on this one. I know I have just mastered the
CVS deal and will probably become involved in not too long. I think
that the CVS difficulty could be easily solved. Since whomever does not
know CVS is certainly not committed to a particular way of doing it, all
that has to be done is to provide one solution for the newbie that takes
them to the end of the line. As it is, the advice tries to do all
things for all people and is worthless to the newbie. Make sense? I
think that when I go to the next step, I will put up the CVS I did. It
is really easy and could be easily passed along.
Thanks for all the info in this post, Ted, or is it Net? LOL ///8-)
Michael McGrady
Ted Husted wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:14:00 -0700, Michael McGrady wrote:
Heck, Jim, I am appreciative of all your efforts. I figure you owe
no one nothing. I would be glad to help, but, as Vic seems to
intimate, the entry into helping is not clear to those on the
outside unless you want to make a life of it for a bit. I cannot
do that. I am not some kid looking for approval, but I could be an
old fart that would be of assistance, if there were a way for this
list to accommodate those who are interested and responsible but
not members of a cult. ////8-)
We do follow the cult of CVS, and that's won't change (except to become the cult of SVN).
The biggest stumbling block for people seems to be that they don't know how to use CVS
or post a patch. People who can use CVS, and post a few worthwhile patches, tend to be
invited in rather quickly. The way for someone to show that they are interested and
responsible is to post patches that can be applied with little or no change. (The old
saw being is that we invite someone to be a Committer when we get tired of applying
their patches.)
Besides what's been posted before,
http://struts.apache.org/faqs/helping.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html
there is also a relatively new help page for developers at the Apache level.
http://apache.org/dev/
I've also found the SourceForge CVS documentation helpful:
http://sourceforge.net/docman/?group_id=1 (section F)
The bottom line is that if someone can't use CVS, then they can't be of any help to us, since CVS is the backbone technology.
-Ted.
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