On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:19:49 -0400, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Considering that we only had four votes on Struts 1.2.2, I wouldn't consider the > response a low turnout. :)
I didn't vote on the 1.2.2 release because I haven't had time to test the release. Expressing an opinion on our bug database has a somewhat lower barrier to entry... > IMHO, the Bugzilla issues are not going to get any better, and will only get worse. > > Unless we're aware of someone who is going to step up and maintain Bugzilla at the > infrastructure@ level, there's no point in waiting. As I mentioned in an earlier post, at least two different people have offered (on the infra@ list) to work on upgrading our Bugzilla installation, and maintaining it after the upgrade. > If there's someone willing to run point on this now, then we should let them. If they're willing to run in the direction we want to go, I agree. But I'm not sure that we know what that direction is at this point in time. -- Martin Cooper > > -Ted. > > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:18:36 -0400, David H. DeWolf wrote: > >> > >>ïWhoa, hold on a sec. This wasn't a vote thread, it was a > > > >>ïdiscussion thread. IMO, this is a big enough change that I would > >>ïwant to see a vote thread to draw the attention of other folks > >>ïwho may not have been following this discussion thread. > >> > > > >ïThat's cool, but I if I'm not mistaken only struts committers can > >ïstart a vote thread. ïRight? ïIf that's the case, then I'd suggest > >ïthat the committers get it worked out and let me know when/if > >ïthey're ready for some assistance. > > > >>ïIn addition, only 3 supporting votes out of a total of 14 people > >>ïseems to me to warrant more discussion. (For example, of those > >>ïwho indicated a +1 on switching to JIRA, how many have looked at > >>ïany other Bugzilla installations? Are those people sure JIRA will > >>ïbe what they want when we have our Bugzilla installation > >>ïupgraded?) > >> > > > >ïAgreed that the response was quite low and that's precisely why I > >ïsent the "I'm going to unless I hear otherwise" warning before I > >ïwent off and did it. That said, several of the struts committers > >ïseem to have "other itches" right now, so I'm not sure that waiting > >ïaround for all 14 committers to respond is ideal either (it's > >ïalready been a week). > > > > > >>ïOne thing that makes me very leery of such a change, without a > >>ïlot of thought, is that there are thousands of URLs out there > >>ïpointing to Bugzilla issues, and every one of those will be > >>ïinvalidated by a switch to JIRA (but not by a switch to an > >>ïupgraded Bugzilla). > >> > > > >ïVery valid points. ïQuite frankly, I'm not convinced that JIRA adds > >ïmuch value over bugzilla either, but the tone of this list seemed > >ïto be that the upgrade was desired but no one had the time to take > >ïcharge of it. ïThat's why I volunteered. > > > >ïJust let me know what you want me to do from here, if anything. > > > >ïDavid > > > > > >>ï-- > >>ïMartin Cooper > >> > >> > >>ïOn Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:36:10 -0400, David H. DeWolf > >>ï<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>ïwrote: > >>>ïI count: > >>> > >>>ï+1: 3 > >>>ï+0: 0 > >>>ï0: 1 > >>>ï-0: 1 > >>>ï-1: 0 > >>> > >>>ïI think the 3 +1 votes are enough to move forward, so I > >>> > >>ïwill submit the JIRA > >>>ïrequest unless I hear otherwise by tomorrow morning. > >>> > >>>ïDavid > >>> > >>> > >>>>ï-----Original Message----- > >>>>ïFrom: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>ïSent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:17 PM > >>>>ïTo: Struts Developers List > >>>>ïSubject: Re: JIRA Conversion (was RE: patch to make sure > >>>>ïstreams get closed) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>ïIf the Struts community is in favor of migrating to Jira, I > >>>>> > >>>>ïwould be happy > >>>>>ïto spearhead the process. ïWhile I will need a little > >>>>> > >>>>ïcooperation from the > >>>>>ïcommitters (things like voting on whether or not to > >>>>> > >>>>ïmigrate!), I think the > >>>>>ïrest is simply interaction with the infrastructure team. > >>>>> > >>>>>ïPlease let me know if you'd like me to move forward with > >>>>> > >>>>ïthis or if you > >>>>>ïassessment of what is required is different. > >>>>> > >>>>ïI'm +1 on migrating to JIRA; some committers were not > >>>>ïcomfortable with the fact that it's not open source, but I > >>>>ïthink it's so much better than Bugzilla as to not matter, > >>>>ïespecially since I don't foresee having time myself to do > >>>>ïanything to make Bugzilla better. > >>>> > >>>>ïJoe > >>>> > >>>>ï-- > >>>>ïJoe Germuska > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>ïhttp://blog.germuska.com > >>>>ï"In fact, when I die, if I don't hear 'A Love Supreme,' I'll > >>>>ïturn back; I'll know I'm in the wrong place." - Carlos Santana > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
