Hi, Martin,

I don't think I said a thing about struts-chain.  Why would you think
I thought something I never mentioned and ignore what I did say?

What you suggest I said is patently stupid.  So, I have to admit I
don't think that.  No one would think that.  That would be perfect
straw man, if that is what one wants.

I just asked why JSF (not STRUTS-chain) is not OT.  Why isn't it?  If
there is an obvious reason, we could state focused on what was said
instead of something patently absurd.

Struts-Faces is a sort of switch and a sort of oxymoron beyond that: a
way to transition slowly away from Struts.  That is okay, if Struts
wants to officiate at its own funeral.  But straight up JSF talk is
clearly OT in my mind.  I was, however, asking others what they think
on THAT topic, not on struts-chain.

Jack



On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:50:38 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Dakota Jack wrote:
> 
> > How is JSF not OT with struts-dev or struts-user?  Struts is not dead
> > yet, is it?  And, if not, why is struts airtime free to JSF?
> 
> You don't consider a question about STRUTS-chain - a component in the
> Struts sandbox - to be relevant to Struts?
> 
> --
> Martin Cooper
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> 
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:24:25 -0500, Deadman, Hal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> By the way, for the benefit of our developer community, i just read an
> >>> article " Creating a Pet Store Application with JavaServer Faces,
> >>> Spring, and Hibernate"
> >>> http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=46977&DE=1 that demonstrates the
> >>> readiness of involved technologies. I like to add 2 things to what the
> >>> article has revealed:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Jsf and tiles are fuly integrated under myfaces. You do not need 2
> >>> jsp pages for every view (a wrapper page and a real fragment). Just 1
> >>> fragment jsp that makes a new page and 1 tiles definition. For those
> >> who
> >>> used Struts-1.x + Tiles to create a portal page (e.g. our current
> >> portal
> >>> and LifeRay), you may choose to forget about the portlet layout to
> >> gain
> >>> maximum flexibility for the portlet view i.e. perfectly fit for a
> >>> complete jsf dynamic fragment + total flexibility to scrap an html
> >>> fragment over the Internet + mixing of [Jsf + Jsp + Jstl] in the
> >> portlet
> >>> fragment. (I had this issue and asked the Jsf forum. I took me 4 days
> >> to
> >>> have it worked out and answered myself for the question)
> >>
> >> Does struts-faces provide a way for the JSF reference implementation to
> >> work with tiles and not require two jsps per view?
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> >
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> >
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> >
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"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."

~Dakota Jack~

"You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."

~Native Proverb~

"Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows."

~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~

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