I would disagree that these other technologies do not compete directly with Struts. For now, Shale is a Struts 2.x effort but Craig has made it clear that he is prepared to break if off from Struts if the Struts committers won't consider moving in that direction.
JSF is really a complete application framework. It does pretty much everything Struts does (more or less) so I think that would make it a competitor of Struts. Anyways I definitely support Joe's efforts on this. Don't get me wrong about that. I think Joe is right about things coming and going in cycles and there is always competing projects for our attention. Its just something to think about that's all. I've always supported the idea of going forward with Struts 1.3 (Chain). After that point, however, I think the committers, contributors and users alike should make a decision on where to go from there. sean On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:45:41 -0600, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes Sean I kind of disagree with you too. I think it's great that Struts > is diverse and I hope it gets more so. > My excuse is that I am working on JDNC a lot. > I plan to integrate w/ Struts chain ... after it's released, so I do > benefit from Joe's efforts; I just can't help him. I think it takes time > to study the code and maybe write something sample to use it to see how > it breaks. Some of this Servlet Api is too intricate for me, I mostly > write user applications and don't go into RequestProcessor and such much. > I do try to give back to O/S, but in this case.... as much as this > benefits me... > > So in spirit, we are w/ you Joe, if moral support ads anything. > THANKS! > > .V > > Sean Schofield wrote: > > >Joe, > > > >A comment on your lack of feedback. It occurs to me that this is one > >of the unfortunate byproducts of the Struts development effort > >starting to fracture. In addition to my day job, I'm currently > >working on commons-chain and myfaces (plus JSF in general). That's > >about all of the time I have. My time used to be allocated towards > >Struts and commons-chain, but that is shifting. > > > >The problem is that instead of there being just one large group > >working on Struts, that same group is starting to splinter into > >working on Jericho, Shale, Struts 1.3, MyFaces, etc. I know this is > >something that we'd all like to avoid because none of these worthy > >projects gets enough attention. > > > >Please don't interpret this as a message directed at you. I'm just > >using your comment about lack of feedback as a starting point for a > >larger discussion. I think Struts Chain is a great idea and I will > >try to help you when I can. > > > >I'm sure Craig would also like more feedback on his Shale work. I've > >seen him committing tons of stuff and making a lot of posts but I > >don't see much of a response from the Struts people either. So now he > >and a few other developers are focused on that and shifting away from > >Struts. (I know these people are not abandoning Struts but there are > >only so many hours in a day.) > > > >This is not to discourage anybody who is working on any one of these > >projects. All of them are worthwhile but none will reach their full > >potential without a large group of developers committed to working on > >them. > > > >My .02 > > > >sean > > > > > >ps. (Michael) the wiki is at: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsChain > > > > > > > -- > RiA-SoA w/JDNC <http://www.SandraSF.com> forums > - help develop a community > My blog <http://www.sandrasf.com/adminBlog> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
