Jack, I can understand where you are coming from, but I believe that the struts PMC and committers have a valid point here.
Perhaps a better question to ask (and I expect I know the answer to this) is... How can we get ajax into the sandbox. I suspect that the apache sandbox is using the same repository as core and you could not just be given read/write access to it, and hence the reason that they suggested another place. As in any enterprise (and we must view apache as an enterprise even if it is mostly volunteer labor) there are rules, regulations and policies to be followed. For one reason or another lately I have had a desire to contribute some work to open source projects. Since I use struts so much I felt that it would be where I could best help out. (sure I like Jboss too but we could have VERY VERY LONG conversations about why I don't want to become a committer over there :) The process seems to be simple: 1) supply enough quality work - in the form of patches - that you are noticed as a valuable addition to the team. 2) get voted in as a committer. Now granted the process can take quite some time, but it is almost like being hired for some corporation and working your way up the ladder. Sure it irks us all that there is a ladder here when we have quite likely proven ourselves in our own corporate ladders and are near or approaching the top of those ladders, but be that as it may there is a ladder here. Now why does that have anything to do with ajax? Because that is how you get access to sandbox to sort of "start your own pet project" for struts. There is plenty of work that can be done in this manner. Just look at the bug list... :) Al -----Original Message----- From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:49 PM To: Struts Developers List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RFC: Struts HTML Ajax-Aware Tags I conclude once again that there is little chance of getting a serious discussion on the Struts list of how to intelligently change things so that applications (which Ted rightly points out are the real focus of all this work) can be submitted to Struts. If the very point of Struts is shunted off to another place, i.e. SF, then I would have to say that we seem to be stuck with the old not-so-intelligent approach. ///;-) Jack --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
