On 8/3/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With that thought in mind, I personally see the next evolution almost
> really being two frameworks that work in tandem... and maybe even it is
> *literally* that... one the usual server-side framework, but now with a
> client-side component that is a fair ways beyond anything we have today.
>   They have to be intimately tied together to really make it worth it,
> but I see them both being fairly complex endeavors.

I would go so far as to suggest three layers, the client-side (Ajax),
the server-side (Struts), and the business-side (XWork or Nexus).

In practice, many web application frameworks end up doing double duty.
Since there are few business logic frameworks, developers tend to put
features into presentation frameworks that don't need to be there. We
just don't have another place to put them :)

I've been working on a view-agnostic business-logic framework in the
sandbox, based on Commons CoR, but, alas, all the code is still in C#.

* http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/OVR/WhitePaper


> We're seeing a lot of experimentation in that direction... ASP.Net, JSF,
> all the various Java frameworks out there, more open-source projects
> than you can count... but I'm not sure any of them are quite "right"
> yet.  

And, unlike ASP.NET and JSF, the open source frameworks represent the
technologies that front-line developers actually *want* to use.
Otherwise, we would not have built them :)

-Ted.

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