Ted Husted wrote:
On 8/22/05, Rich Feit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
p.s. In some ways, JSF is a direct competitor to ASPX in ASP.NET, which
is still figuring out the whole navigational-controller thing. In the
rare event that I imagine myself to be on a "side", in a "battle", I
consider myself to be on the side that contains JSF+Struts+Shale,
looking across the field at ASP.NET. :) And even then, I'm only on
that side because I want the more community-driven ecosystem to prevail.
Yep, in much that same way that JSP was a direct corollary to ASP
Classic. I'm studying JSF and working in ASPX full time now. From what
I can see, JSF does do ASPX one-better in some places.
Out of the box, ASPX is still missing a few critical pieces, as is
JSF. On the .NET side, Spring.Web is starting to patch those hole
(thanks guys!), and on the JSF side, Shale is trying to do the same.
But, none of this is news. We've always said that platforms like ASPX
and JSF are never complete out of the box, no more than JSP or ASP
were. Back in 2000, the Struts community stepped up and provided the
missing pieces for JSP, and now we're doing the same thing for JSF.
But not because we're trying to fill some marketing niche. We need
this stuff to ship our own applications, and we know from experience
that we get better stuff when we share :)
Totally. This is basically the opposite of hype-driven-development. :D
Rich
--Ted.
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