Oh, I almost forgot.

I think now would be a good time to discuss the Struts website. I know Wendy and Ted have been making a lot of changes and I honestly haven't been keeping up with it all.

What is the status of it?
Can we begin pushing this content to the struts.apache.org now? Or should we wait?


I'd also like to get some feedback on an idea I was thinking about recently. The content of struts.apache.org has traditionally been the latest and greatest (including javadocs) even if it took us months between uploads ;)

Can we add a new section on the main page that provides links to all previous documents?
I was thinking...like, how we have:

Subprojects
  BSF Scripting
  JavaServer Faces Integration
  Shale Framework
  Struts Flow

Documentation
  User and Developer Guides
  Release Notes
  Javadoc
  FAQs and Howtos

Community
  Mailing Lists
  Wiki Pages
  Resource Directory
  Known Issues (Bugzilla)



We can add a section for old releases:

Historical Documentation
  Struts 1.0.2
  Struts 1.1
  Struts 1.2.2
  Struts 1.2.6
  Struts 1.2.7

I don't mean just the javadocs either, I mean the entire project site documentation.

Your thoughts?



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On Sep 22, 2005, at 9:11 PM, James Mitchell wrote:

I agree.

I now have the 1.2 branch fully automated and on a cron job. The only thing that makes this setup not 100% perfect is the fact that it needs a committer account to push the nightlies over to minotaur.

I just checked in a copy of the nightly script that I am using. And the job is set up to run tonight at 11:30 PST. If it fails I'll keep at it till it is hands free.

Now, I'm off to revisit the mailreader application.



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On Sep 22, 2005, at 12:17 AM, Martin Cooper wrote:


On 9/21/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



My goal is to have the sources for both 1.2.7 branch and HEAD in such a way that if Infra decides to zap the zones, that I can just flip on my cron job again and poof (just as quickly) we are back in business.




Right. My point was that we'd have lost a week's worth of nightlies, so if there are problems with the latest one, we can't tell people to pick up one from a few days ago. But maybe we don't care enough about that to worry
about it.

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I'm half way there. The 1.2 branch build is complete, and now being


built and uploaded from the zone to minotar (the normal nightly spot)
using my account. It is still not automated (crontab), but it's
there. And let me just say, that machine simply screems! I can do a
full release of the 1.2 branch in about 35 seconds (not counting
download-dependencies). It was at about 3 or 4 minutes on my linux box.


For HEAD, this means getting the maven build streamlined, which I've
already done some work on, but things could be even faster. I'll
keep plugging away, but be aware that someone is bound to notice the
missing nightlies for 1.3.x.



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On Sep 21, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:



On 9/20/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





I have finally gotten around to finishing the setup of my account on our zone (http://www.apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html) and thanks to Martin and Google, I'm now able to fully build the nightly (by hand)
of the entire Struts project.





Woohoo! :-)

For those who haven't been watching, the nightly builds that were



happening on my machine began failing during the 'svn up' portion of
the script. This basically caused Maven do say "oh cool, nothings
changed, let's not build any artifacts", and the rest of the shell
script just happily uploads the same jars from the last build. This explains the mismatch in date/name of some of the nightly artifacts.

So, where are we?
Currently, the latest build (nightly) is available here (http://
struts.zones.apache.org/~jmitchell/nightly/)<http:// struts.zones.apache.org/~jmitchell/nightly/)>


<http://


struts.zones.apache.org/~jmitchell/nightly/)<http:// struts.zones.apache.org/~jmitchell/nightly/)>


.


I also updated the
readme on the regular nightly download page to point to this interim
spot. This is a manual process right now.


Where do we want to be?
Typically, nightlies are hosted from /www/cvs.apache.org/build/
{project}.
Right now, both Craig and my own personal machines are configured to
pull from cvs/svn, run the build, and upload something to that
location. This can only happen as a cron job if we copy the
appropriate ssh keys to the target server (no login prompted).

The question really comes down to "Where will the nightlies live?".

If we want to use some generic account on the zone to build the
nightly, the script would need to either:
a) use someone's account (mine?) to build/scp the nightlies over to
cvs.apache.org <http://cvs.apache.org> <http://cvs.apache.org>
b) build via a generic account and scp via a valid account (committer
account on the zone)

Although, we can actually avoid all of this by just hosting the
nightlies from the zone. The url might look like this:
http://struts.zones.apache.org/~nightly/





As Craig mentioned, the zones are, in theory, still subject to
disappearing
in a puff of bits, so I'd prefer to see the nightlies pushed to
minotaur so
that they're still around if that does ever happen. I think we
should have a
'build' account on the zone that does the actual building; I don't
have any
good ideas on the key to use to push them over when they're done.

That said, with Justin and Leo both stepping back from infra@, and
several
others being, uh, less prominent than they used to be, it's not
clear that
much of anything is going to happen on the zones machine in the
near future
that would disrupt us.

If we do distribute from the zone itself, it would be nice to have
a URL
more like:

http://struts.zones.apache.org/builds/nightly

rather than actually exposing an account name in the URL. ;-)

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Martin Cooper


Somewhat related - Craig, if you are interested, I'd be happy to help



you move your nightly Ant builds to the new zone.



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