Don, Since heavily quoted email messages can be difficult to read, and easy to misunderstand, I've taken the liberty of formatting these messages as wiki pages.
* http://opensource2.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/STRUTS/Clarity If this is a problem for anyone, I'll take the pages down. -Ted. On 10/10/05, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Consolidation is a relatively unknown concept in the crowded web > framework space. While most frameworks are open source allowing > cross-pollination, collaboration is still rare resulting in duplicated > efforts and confusion for the end user. Struts Ti, a next-gen project > in the Struts sandbox, tried to buck the trend by building on WebWork > rather than wasting its time writing yet another Model2 framework. > > Taking this level of cooperation to the next level, developers from four > popular web frameworks - Struts, Spring, WebWork, and Beehive, have > gotten together to discuss the possibility of consolidating their > efforts into a new project, termed Clarity. Clarity would be an > action-based MVC framework that combines the commonality of the four > aforementioned frameworks into one that can be built upon by all. > > These discussions have just began, and while no one has "officially" > signed on, I thought I should bring it before the Struts community for > feedback. There is still much to work out, but I want to keep the > community involved from the beginning. > > I personally am excited about this project and think it will be > beneficial to users and developers alike. The Struts Classic code base > is showing its age, but speaking as a developer who maintains old Struts > apps, few people have the time and budget to rewrite them from scratch > with a more disparate framework like Shale or Wicket. I think Clarity > would be a much easier migration for existing Struts applications and > developers, yet support key standards like Portlets and JSF. > > Attached is two messages in a private email thread between Patrick > Lightbody (WebWork), Keith Donald (Spring), Rich Feit (Beehive), and me, > that started the Clarity discussion. We plan to have a public email > list for Clarity discussion, but it hasn't been setup yet. > > What I'm looking for from the Struts community is if you think this is a > good idea, and if you do, what we need to do to make it work. > Personally, I don't expect Struts or even Struts Classic going away at > all even if we agreed Clarity is migration path, so this isn't an > either/or discussion. > > Again, this is _NOT_ a project announcement meant for the world, only > the beginning of a discussion about the idea of consolidating a few web > frameworks and how Struts fits in with this. Looking forward to the > comments, > > Don --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
