Bingo! The palace revolt continues!

On 11/3/05, Laurie Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Struts project used to have a single deliverable/artifact, which was
> Struts, the product. Using the same name for both made sense then. Now
> that the Struts project has multiple deliverables/artifacts, they
> obviously need different names. It just happens that many of the
> deliverables are subcomponents of the original product, and that one is
> an assembly of deliverables roughly equivalent to the original product.
>
> So, the question is, does it make sense to overload the name 'Struts' to
> mean both
>
> - Struts: the project (w/ various deliverables)
> - Struts: the product (a deliverable of the project,
> comprised of other deliverables but *not* all of them)
>
> Especially since then Shale, Ti, etc. are at the same conceptual level
> as (and not a part of) Struts (the product), even though they are a part
> of Struts (the project)...
>
> I do think there needs to be a name, distinct from the project name, to
> describe the (currently primary) deliverable. If you're still not
> convinced, try removing '(the project)' and '(the product)' from this
> email and see if it still makes any sense ;-)
>
> L.
>
> Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> > One option I've said a couple of times that isn't on that list and seems
> > like it isn't getting due consideration: "STRUTS"!
> >
> > I really don't understand why there would be any desire or need to
> > change from the name in use now. As Laurie quite coherently stated
> > earlier today, there is already an understanding in the community that
> > Struts is a project, but also is a product. IMO, that should continue
> > to be true.
> >
> > We should see:
> >
> > Struts 1.3.0
> >
> > ...which consists of:
> >
> > Core x.x.x
> > Tiles x.x.x
> > Validator x.x.x
> > ...and so on...
> >
> > I think it's fair to say that the version number of Core would always
> > match the version number of Struts. But the other subproject numbers
> > can go off and do whatever they want.
> >
> > But when someone comes to get Struts, *TODAY*, they are looking for that
> > one download that contains everything they need. I don't see why this
> > should change after breaking out the subprojects.
> >
> > How should the Struts version number increment? I'm not as sure about
> > that, but that is to me a separate question anyway. Call it Struts and
> > be done with it. That neatly avoids all the confusion IMO.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Wendy Smoak wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/3/05, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> BTW, was "Struts
> >>> Distribution" voted down already, because I thought that was the most
> >>> intuitive
> >>> name for what we are trying to do.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> IIRC it was Martin's suggestion, I think it got lost in the Great
> >> Version Debate. :)
> >>
> >> So far we have
> >> - Struts Classic
> >> - Struts Core Library
> >> - Struts Distribution
> >>
> >> Any other options, and which do you prefer?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wendy
> >>
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