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- [  What could be the problem with our encounter on a text?
- It could be too fix; it could be exactly what we don’t want our project to 
become. Let’s avoid the division in Concept and Process and let’s edit it 
as a wave of thoughts between you and me. We already have so much in our 
interstice. Let’s just show it as a flux or a flow.
- That’s the only way not to loose all the precious inputs we gave the 
project. We arrived from different ways and keep the diversity in order to 
enrich the organic structure and make our reciprocal activation not a simply 
death end.
- Let’s edit a text divided just by spaces and let’s forget the titles. 
Let’s edit a text that progress in all the interesting direction that we have 
already activated.
- The text is an object and the medium of writing has implications on how we 
think and on how ideas are produced. In order to this the text is one of the 
objects produced but not the only or final one. In order to develop what and 
how we think we have to find different approaches to every point we make. In 
this case the text is an ongoing dialogue, it is a process that not only goes 
forwards but also backwards, to the left and to the right, up and down and 
somewhere else. There will be questions and some answers, but also not fully 
expressed ideas. These aspects can continually be rewritten, completed or even 
erased ]
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- [  I’m writing on confusion as a higher level of sensibility, Edward Lorenz 
and the Butterfly Effect  ]
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- [  There is a postcard with a still from the Wim Wender’s movie Alice in 
the Cities. On an unclear scene it is possible to detect the blond hair and the 
hint of a child’s body on the left side of the picture and a shadowed man’s 
figure on the right.
- I keep thinking about that space, that in between Rudiger Vogler and Yella 
Rottlander – the main character of the movie as well as the two entities on 
the postcards. With its absence, its endless possibilities of been fulfilled 
and its consequent productive confusion, this space simply embodies all the 
meaning of that human relation and, consequently, of the whole movie.
- It is on that unclear but still meaningful interstice that the concept of 
confusion as an extreme disorder seams to change value and reach a complex and 
productive signification. It’s in this alternative place that confusion could 
be seen as higher level of sensibility  ]
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- [  I’m writing a text on art as object in relation to history of art and in 
contrast with the idea of a window on the world  ].
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- [  “The text doesn’t gloss the images, which do not illustrate the text. 
For me, each has been no more than the onset of a kind of visual uncertainty, 
analogous to that loss of meaning Zen calls a satori. Text and images, 
interlacing, seek to ensure the circulation and exchange of those signifiers: 
body, face, writing; and in than to read the retreat of signs”.
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- Those are the first words of Empire of Signs by Roland Bathes book that 
embodies my interest for confusion as a higher level of sensibility and that 
brings me to the idea of interstice.
- It’s curious that it is on the idea of interstice that we first have 
activated our communal interests. Maybe its better to say in the idea of 
interstice and with this shift the interstice creates that dangerous zone where 
things happen, where thoughts are produced as results of precious confusion.
- Confusion gets form by activating all the different points of interest; it 
creates a flow that is impossible to detect and knows now end. 
- We meet ourselves in that interstice. Your idea of space and place, of time 
and different perception, brings you to the possibility of an interstice as a 
meaningful in between; it creates that alternative place where confusion 
becomes an experimental process and brings us – or in general the subject – 
to work on a dangerous zone where struggle and coercion are incorporated. This 
is a zone of critical thoughts and artistic production.
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- Why Barthes and his book about Japan and sign-aucracy?
- In Barthes’ book confusion is directly linked with the Japanese concept of 
MU – emptiness – and brings the reader to the idea of interstice as a 
productive and critical place. At this point we reach our independence from the 
thoughts of Deleuze and Guattari because in Barthes book we feel how confusion 
is directly related with a shift from the western mechanical tradition – we 
are all products of Descartes – to an eastern organic tradition.  
- In the chapter Without Words, Barthes explains in one page how he felt in the 
same interstice where we meet each other
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- ‘The unknown language, of which I nonetheless grasps the respiration, the 
emotive aeration, in a word the pure significance, form around me, as I move, a 
fait of vertigo, sweeping me into this artificial emptiness, which is 
consummated only for me: I live in the interstice, delivered from any fulfilled 
meaning’
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- It’s curious how he explains his first contact with the Japanese’ 
language in everyday life. The confusion brought by an unknown language, 
unknown sign and unknown rumours, together with the efforts to understand the 
language throw the person – a stranger without any knowledge of the idiom – 
in an alternative place: it’s in that alternative place that we can talk 
about a higher level of sensibility. Confusion is something that puts the 
person inside the in between, in the interstice where everything happens and 
where a productive dangerous zones is created ]
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- [  I’m writing on the Centre of Tokyo as a supreme interstice  ]
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- [  There is a poetry from Fernando Pessoa namely The King of Interstice that 
could be seen as a strong reference for our project.:
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- There lived, I know not when, never perhaps –
- But the fact is that he lived – an unknown king
- Whose kingdom was the strange kingdom of Interstice
- He was lord of what is twixt thing and thing,
- Of interbeings, of that part of us
- That lies between our waking and our sleep,
- Between our silence and our speech, between
- Us and the consciousness of us; and thus
- A strange mute kingdom did that weird king keep
- Sequestered from our thought of time and space.
- Those supreme purposes that never reach
- The deed – between them and the deed undone
- He rules, uncrowned. He is the mystery which
- Is between eyes and sight, nor blind nor seeing.
- Himself is never ended nor begun,
- Above is own void presence empty shelf.
- All he is but a chasm in his own being,
- The lidless box holding not-being’s no-pelf.
- All think that he is God, except himself.
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- That kingdom is the field of creation, the alternative place where it’s 
possible to detect a dangerous zone of thoughts.
- That kingdom is the place of interests of an organic structure, is one of the 
hubs, one of the meanings’ connector   ]
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- [  I’m writing a text on Hakim Bey and his idea of the no-go zone
- Hakim Bey is an avant-garde poet-philosopher whose work departs from the 
academic tradition, rediscovering mystery and magic as means of re-conquering 
joy of life and defeating boredom.
- About chaos:
- ‘CHAOS NEVER DIED. Primordial uncared block, sole worshipful monster, inert 
& spontaneous, more ultraviolet than any mythology (like the shadows before 
Babylon), the original undifferentiated oneness-of-being still radiates serene 
as the black pennants of Assassins, random & perpetually intoxicated.
- Chaos comes before all principles of order & entropy, it's neither a god nor 
a maggot, its idiotic desires encompass & define every possible choreography, 
all meaningless aethers & phlogistons: its masks are crystallizations of its 
own facelessness, like clouds. Everything in nature is perfectly real including 
consciousness, there's absolutely nothing to worry about. Not only have the 
chains of the Law been broken, they never existed; demons never guarded the 
stars, the Empire never got started, Eros never grew a beard’.  ]
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- [   I’m writing a text on the idea of laboratory related to curating 
showing the differences within organisations   ]
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- [   The project considered as a tautology brings us to Wittgenstein.
- For Wittgenstein tautology is a key point to understand the structure of 
language and as a consequence the structure of reality. Tautology could be 
considered as an interstice: it’s exactly nothing and everything at the same 
time, emptiness becomes fullness and the way around. As Wittgenstein says: 
‘tautology and contradiction are the limited cases of a language […] of the 
combination of senses that form reality’.
- The general form of a proposition reveals the relation between a word and its 
referent (when there is a direct link between the understanding of a 
proposition and the understanding of reality). A tautology, which is different 
from a proposition, is true under every single condition, it doesn’t explain 
anything and so it reveals emptiness. It forms the exception by which the rule 
becomes possible. The shift from highlighting the rule to highlighting the 
exception reveals also a shift from a mechanical to an organic approach: the 
rule is formed by the exception and the vice verso. On the one hand the 
mechanical paradigm defines the world by defining the rule, it explains the 
world causational. On the other the organic approach shows mutual relations, 
without rule or exception.
- For Wittgenstein tautology is a complete emptiness that at the same time is 
necessary to build an atomic and philosophical structure.
- When we take the idea of Tautology and emptiness to its extreme consequent 
then the interstice or meaningful emptiness stands at the basis of the 
understanding of reality and reality itself. According to this the emptiness 
can be considered as an alternative place where confusion could be seen as a 
higher level of sensibility and where production takes place. Ones erased the 
atomic approach the interstice remains. It is the place of creation and meaning 
   ]
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- [   I’m writing on the loss of control related to the position of the 
curator  ]
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