On 4/29/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The proposal to establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] resulted in

   10 +1 votes (four from PMC members: James, Greg, Craig, Wendy)
    2  +0 votes (Don and Ted)

The proposal to unsubscribe commits@ from dev@ resulted in

   11 +1 votes (five from PMC members James, Greg, Craig, Ted, Wendy)
    1 +0  vote (Don)

(Counting my implied +1 since it looks like I didn't vote. :)  And I'm
not exactly sure how to count the votes... the voting page [1] wasn't
much help for proposals.)


That's because this was *not* a vote. It was a proposal. The +1's, +0s, etc.
do not count as votes but as expressions of agreement or otherwise. That
there were no -1 or -0 comments indicates that there was general concensus
to go ahead.

In general, we need to get better at not throwing +1s, etc., around all the
time as if they were votes, because clearly it can cause some confusion when
they're not. ;-) And I admit I'm just as guilty of this as anyone else.

--
Martin Cooper


I'll go ahead and ask infrastructure to establish the new
[EMAIL PROTECTED] list with archives, and to make sure that
commits@ will be archived before we unsub it from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (I assume a
moderator for dev@ can do that part.)

[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html

Thanks,
Wendy

On 4/25/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate
> presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and
> RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following:
>
>  * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and direct JIRA emails to it
>
>  * unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] (svn commit messages and Wiki diffs)
from dev@
>
> Initially, the subscriber lists for these two could be copied from
> dev@, so that current subscribers are not affected.  (Except for
> possibly needing to reconfigure mail filters.)
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
>

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