s...@feb17.org wrote on Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 07:16:01 -0700:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 06:14:30AM -0500, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
> > It should also be pointed out that a spammer could easily subscribe
> > directly to the list and get all the address information that way,
> > completely by passing any archives.
> > 
> > For completeness, the ASF's public archive policy, which we adhere to,
> > is here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/public-archives.html
> > 
> > Best,
> > -Hyrum
> 
> At least that's a tiny bit more work for them to sign up for every email
> list serve in the world.  Harvesting openly published email addresses is
> just too easy.   They would ideally never appear anywhere in the first
> place so they couldn't be mirrored.  I understand your constrants but
> I still think this is appalling from an engineering point of view and
> won't participate if it means leaving a please spam me trail behind me.

Nearly all open-source projects rely on email communications, and most
are publicly archived in >1 places.

You could use auto-expiring email addresses (for example,
address-$((1+$(date +%Y%m%d)))@domain) --- they are still valid but
pretty useless for spammers.

> Sorry,
> 
> Darren
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Darren,
> > >
> > > Over a dozen sites mirror our archives, usually by grabbing our published
> > > mbox for the list. As a result, we cannot control how they publish the 
> > > email
> > > addresses contained within. It is also important for those mboxes to 
> > > retain
> > > the email addresses for archival purposes, and so those third-party 
> > > systems
> > > can allow proper replies (hopefully, only by humans, but as you've
> > > discovered... they are not all perfect).
> > >
> > > Sorry for any inconvenience, but please don't blame us. We do try to 
> > > respect
> > > your privacy in our own web archive system.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > -g
> > >
> > > On Jun 18, 2012 5:10 AM, <s...@feb17.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Less than 2 months after using this mailing list I've started getting 
> > >> spam
> > >> to the custom email address I used to post here.  I think it's terrible
> > >> practice to openly publish email addresses in easily harvestable form.  
> > >> I'll
> > >> be /dev/nulling this address and unsubscribing.  I hope you could 
> > >> reconsider
> > >> that policy,
> > >>
> > >> Darren
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:05:52PM -0700, daz wrote:
> > >> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 07:58:10AM -0500, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
> > >> > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Philip Martin
> > >> > > <philip.mar...@wandisco.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > s...@feb17.org writes:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> A little more information on this.  I have probably rebuilt svn
> > >> > > >> about 20 times tonight from scratch, with
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks to everyone who contributed useful clues on this.  Using the
> > >> > current code tree and rebuilding with different versions and 
> > >> > combinations of
> > >> > libraries I narrowed the problem down to the apr version.  Either the 
> > >> > build
> > >> > of my earlier apr 1.3.9 or the version itself was the problem.  The 
> > >> > test
> > >> > suite was super helpful and the explanation about XFAIL vs FAIL.   I 
> > >> > have a
> > >> > build using apr 1.4.6 that passes all the tests it should pass and more
> > >> > importantly actually works.    It might be helpful to print a reminder 
> > >> > at
> > >> > the end of the default make step suggesting running the tests if this 
> > >> > is a
> > >> > common problem.  There are a lot of dependencies and some of them seem 
> > >> > to be
> > >> > a bit finicky.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> > Darren
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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