On 20.03.2015 16:04, Daniel Berlin wrote: > The ASF doesn't require copyright lines, AFAIK. > > To whit: httpd has *none* in the their repository. > Here's a random file: > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/httpd/trunk/server/apreq_module_cgi.c?view=markup > > Copyright lines are legally meaningless. > In fact, you are usually worse often having them, because if you get > them wrong, it hurts you legally (if you mislead someone into > infringement through a wrong notice, that's a defense for them) , but > if you do nothing, it doesn't.
We're talking about two separate things here: * The contents of the NOTICE file; the ASF does, per current policy, require a copyright line there which includes the year. * The output of 'svn --version', 'svnadmin --version', etc, which has contained a copyright line for ages. We don't have copyright lines in file headers. I wouldn't mind removing the line from the version output; but as long as we have it, it should IMO be the equivalent to what we (must) have in NOTICE. -- Brane > (I'm assuming you aren't distributing copies of subversion from before > 1988 here :P ) Thankfully, no. :) -- Brane > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com > <mailto:gst...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Let me expand on that a bit ... let's not hold any releases for > this, but let's talk to Danny and other peeps at the ASF. I > believe we can clear out a few lines. Pointing to subversion.a.o > is nice. We should be able to scorch the other 3 lines. > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com > <mailto:gst...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > hehe... I think it is time to kill that off, with extreme > prejudice :-D > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:35 AM, Branko Čibej > <br...@wandisco.com <mailto:br...@wandisco.com>> wrote: > > On 20.03.2015 11:07, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Branko Čibej > <br...@wandisco.com <mailto:br...@wandisco.com> > > <mailto:br...@wandisco.com <mailto:br...@wandisco.com>>> wrote: > > >... > > > > IMO, we should either not display the year (which > IIUC would > > violate ASF policy), or we should display the > correct year. > > Anything else makes us look silly. > > > > > > Hmm? Policy is at: > > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html > > > > And that is what I see in a random sampling of our source. > > > > > > > > If I'm wrong about policy, then I propose we just > change those > > lines from: > > > > Copyright (C) 2014 The Apache Software Foundation. > > > > > > Where are you seeing this? > > Output of 'svn --version', it's in > subversion/libsvn_subr/version.c (and > was in .../opt.c in 1.7). > > Been that way for decades. > > -- Brane > > > >