Hi Francesco,

The feedback I have got is that the algorithm used in ThreadLocalRandom is
not secure enough to be considered a SecureRandom. So I think it's probably
not OK to switch if we are using it to generate tokens unfortunately.

Colm.


On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Colm O hEigeartaigh <cohei...@apache.org>
wrote:

> No, my query got passed on to someone else, still waiting to hear back....
>
> Colm.
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò <
> ilgro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> thanks for the feedback go to so far.
>>
>> I know from IRC that Colm has been exploring the security feasibility
>> with some of his contacts:  any results so far?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> On 30/01/2018 08:24, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> any feedback on this?
>>> If no one sees issues with that I'll proceed as indicated.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> On 24/01/2018 17:54, Francesco Chicchiriccò wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all (and Colm in particular, as this should be in your chords),
>>>> we are currently basing all operations requiring random generation
>>>> (mainly tokens used during double opt-in and password reset, and password
>>>> values for specific cases) on SecureRandom [1].
>>>>
>>>> SecureRandom has, however, some performance issues which were solved,
>>>> starting with Java 7, by ThreadLocalRandom [2]; with Java 8 an improvement
>>>> was made [3] to retain security by setting the system property
>>>> 'java.util.secureRandomSeed' to true.
>>>>
>>>> Shall we:
>>>>
>>>> 1. suggest to set
>>>>
>>>> -Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/./urandom
>>>>
>>>> for Tomcat and other Java EE containers on Linux, and
>>>>
>>>> 2. suggest to set
>>>>
>>>> -Djava.util.secureRandomSeed=true
>>>>
>>>> for Tomcat and other Java EE containers, and
>>>>
>>>> 3. replace SecureRandom with ThreadLocalRandom in [1]
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/syncope/blob/2_0_X/common/lib/src/
>>>> main/java/org/apache/syncope/common/lib/SecureTextRandomProv
>>>> ider.java#L29
>>>> [2] https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/concurre
>>>> nt/ThreadLocalRandom.html
>>>> [3] https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/util/concurre
>>>> nt/ThreadLocalRandom.html
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Francesco Chicchiriccò
>>
>> Tirasa - Open Source Excellence
>> http://www.tirasa.net/
>>
>> Member at The Apache Software Foundation
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>>
>>
>
>
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> Colm O hEigeartaigh
>
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