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Francesco Chicchiriccò updated SYNCOPE-1718:
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    Description: 
As [recently reported in Flowable 
forum|https://forum.flowable.org/t/module-flowable-json-converter-and-flowable-ui-modeler-frontend-missing-in-7-0-0-m1/10061]
 at least two important modules, currently used for Console support, e.g. JSON 
Converter and UI Modeler, were not included into their next major release 7.0.0.

Alternatives considered:
 * [Activiti|https://www.activiti.org/] (adopted in the past and later 
discarded in favor of Flowable); changing the user workflow adapter 
implementation is straightforward, but forms (for user requests) and web editor 
are barely not any more available from the open source releases.
 * [Operaton|https://operaton.org/], a.k.a. "the fork of the fork" (since it 
comes from Camunda which originally came from Activiti); while it seems a real 
open source project with its community, forms will need to be mostly 
re-implemented and likely not covering all use cases currently implemented.
 * [Apache Kie|https://kie.apache.org/] e.g. jBPM / Drools now at The ASF; 
after [reaching out to their users mailing 
list|https://lists.apache.org/thread/r4nn7gbfsm2zpgl4ybd8qcxj4djdfx45] it seems 
that a few key items are missing.

  was:
As [recently reported in Flowable 
forum|https://forum.flowable.org/t/module-flowable-json-converter-and-flowable-ui-modeler-frontend-missing-in-7-0-0-m1/10061]
 there is chance that at least two important modules, currently used for 
Console support, e.g. JSON Converter and UI Modeler, will not get into their 
next major release 7.0.0.

It could be the case, then, to re-evaluate Activiti (adopted in the past and 
later discarded in favor of Flowable) or to reconsider the whole user workflow 
customization.

Another interesting option is [Operaton|https://operaton.org/], a.k.a. "the 
fork of the fork" - yet promising about community support.

Last but not least (especially because now at The ASF): Apache Kie's 
(https://kie.apache.org/) Kogito: https://kogito.kie.org/


> Consider Flowable replacement
> -----------------------------
>
>                 Key: SYNCOPE-1718
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SYNCOPE-1718
>             Project: Syncope
>          Issue Type: Task
>          Components: console, core
>    Affects Versions: 4.0.0-M0
>            Reporter: Francesco Chicchiriccò
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: flowable
>             Fix For: 4.0.0
>
>
> As [recently reported in Flowable 
> forum|https://forum.flowable.org/t/module-flowable-json-converter-and-flowable-ui-modeler-frontend-missing-in-7-0-0-m1/10061]
>  at least two important modules, currently used for Console support, e.g. 
> JSON Converter and UI Modeler, were not included into their next major 
> release 7.0.0.
> Alternatives considered:
>  * [Activiti|https://www.activiti.org/] (adopted in the past and later 
> discarded in favor of Flowable); changing the user workflow adapter 
> implementation is straightforward, but forms (for user requests) and web 
> editor are barely not any more available from the open source releases.
>  * [Operaton|https://operaton.org/], a.k.a. "the fork of the fork" (since it 
> comes from Camunda which originally came from Activiti); while it seems a 
> real open source project with its community, forms will need to be mostly 
> re-implemented and likely not covering all use cases currently implemented.
>  * [Apache Kie|https://kie.apache.org/] e.g. jBPM / Drools now at The ASF; 
> after [reaching out to their users mailing 
> list|https://lists.apache.org/thread/r4nn7gbfsm2zpgl4ybd8qcxj4djdfx45] it 
> seems that a few key items are missing.



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