Yes, I agree. I already on the way adding it to SVN ;-) Am Di., 27. Aug. 2019 um 08:42 Uhr schrieb Julian Feinauer < [email protected]>:
> Hi Anatole, > > > > thanks for your quick reply. > > I agree, I just shortly checked and only found that in the policy [1]. > > Which does not force to have a staged release. > > > > Why does everybody do then? I’m not sure, but some reasons to consider: > > - You have the KEYS file nearby which is necessary as it’s a MUST to > check signatures before voting (for PPMCs at least) > - You have the README and RELEASE_NOTES nearby to easily and quickly > be checkable > - You minimize the risk of releasing something else than the staged > release as its simply ‘svn cp …’ and not creating a new folder and stuff > > > > So personally, as RM, I would always do so : ) > > If you handle it differently in your project I have no objections IF you > provide all above and you ensure especially step 3 which is crucial. > > > > Julian > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#stage > > > > *Von: *Anatole Tresch <[email protected]> > *Datum: *Dienstag, 27. August 2019 um 08:37 > *An: *Julian Feinauer <[email protected]> > *Betreff: *Re: Some considerations regarding Votes > > > > Hi Julian > > > > no worries, AFAIK there was no issue in the general doing a lean release > without staging in svn. But I can do so. The release zip has been built as > well. > > > > J Anatole > > > > Am Di., 27. Aug. 2019 um 08:28 Uhr schrieb Julian Feinauer < > [email protected]>: > > Hi all, > > > > I’m pretty new to the list and just stumbled about the ongoing vote(s) and > I would like to share some of my experiences / best practices with you. > > > > @Anatole Tresch <[email protected]>: As you are the release manager (RM) > please don’t see this as critics. As podling you are in the process of > learning and I simply want to try to help you with my experiences. > > > > So, things that I recognized: > > > > # Artefacts are stagend in nexus and NOT in svn > > This is probably the only “severe” issue. Artefacts have to be staged in > the svn repository together with the KEYS file (which contains the key of > the RM who signed the releases). You usually also stage them on nexus (to > do a mvn release later on) but that’s only a site note. > > This is something which should be done ASAP as the Incubator would likely > not agree on a RC who is not staged in svn. > > If you have questions regarding that, I can of course help you with that. > > > > # RCs > > Usually we number the Votes we do as release candidates (rc) and also keep > this naming structure in the svn. > > So instead of calling it Vote 1 or 2 or 3 I would simply call it RC1 / RC2 > / RC2 (and usually ‘old’ RCs are left in svn unitl the release is done). > > > > # RESULT VOTE > > When a vote is finished (either cancelled or sucesfull) the person who > started the vote sends a mail with subject ‘[RESULT][VOTE] Name of the > Vote’ to the list with a short summary of the Vote. This helps everybody to > keep in track of how votes resulted. > > > > # DISCUSS > > A very minor thing is that one often times starts a [DISCUSS] Thread > parallel to a [VOTE] thread where discussions go. This helps to keep the > vote thread cleaner which becomes more and more important when your > community grows (hopefully soon :-) ). > > > > Again, please don’t see this as negative critics but rather as some > pointers to show you where you can or should improve. > > The only thing which should be updated ASAP is Artefacts should be staged > in svn, everything else is “minor”. > > > > If there are any questions or comments feel free and I’ll try to answer > them accordingly! > > > > Julian > > > > > -- > > *Anatole Tresch* > > PPMC Member Apache Tamaya > > JCP Star Spec Lead > > *Switzerland, Europe Zurich, GMT+1* > > *maketechsimple.wordpress.com <http://maketechsimple.wordpress.com/> * > > *Twitter: @atsticks, @tamayaconf* > > > > > -- *Anatole Tresch* PPMC Member Apache Tamaya JCP Star Spec Lead *Switzerland, Europe Zurich, GMT+1* *maketechsimple.wordpress.com <http://maketechsimple.wordpress.com/> * *Twitter: @atsticks, @tamayaconf*
