Probably i will have teams doing the same project (small one) with JSF and other with T4, and get some internal feedback from more developers.

Thanks for quick answer Howard.


Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
The recurring theme I've gotten from my many clients is that they looked at
JSF and looked at Tapestry and saw Tapestry as the clear winner.

JSF demos well, and its goals are good, and its a newer code base. However,
once you get past demos and prototypes, it ends up being quite a bit of
coding. Facelets, which adapts some Tapestry ideas to JSF, is a big help,
as it makes it easier to create custom components ... but does so at the
expense of incompatibility with the JSF IDEs, which require you to stick
with the default, JSP based view stack.

There are quite a number of Tapestry developers in the UK and in Europe. As
to professional support, take a peek at http://tapestrysupport.com.

Tapestry has excellent integration with portlets.

Compatibility, and the lack thereof, between Tapestry 4 and Tapestry 5 is an issue. I've controversially stated that compatibility is at best a secondary
issue. I've already been able to accomplish some amazing things in the
Tapestry 5 code base because I'm not trying for backwards compatibility:
this includes POJO classes and automatic class reloading.  The basic
concepts of Tapestry 4 will carry forward to Tapestry 5, but the
implementation is completely different.

I've been accused of not caring about backwards compatibility, but the
reality is that I do care about it, and I've been facing the conflict
between adding features and breaking compatibility with each new release of
Tapestry. Tapestry 5 rewrites those rules so that it will be quite
reasonable to add features without breaking existing code.


On 9/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello everyone,

this question goes to main team that developer the core of tapestry.

I'm currently working in big company (7.000+ employees) and we are in
the way to think about
update our J2EE environment and frameworks.

Im including in that big "brainstorm" in particular on the web and
portal applications, and about the presentation framework we have allot
of doubts and we currently have to choices in mind
Tapestry and JSF,

I have done some research with tapestry and jsf, i like allot tapestry
over jsf, and i have few question that i should like to have some
answers, to have more arguments to select the best for my company.

- The components parts are very important for us, i want to know the
experience from the team and users about the incorporate with portals
(portlet's, now its native)  - VERY important THING, and the issues.

- Other important thing its about the compatibility of version (think
this may be one of the big causes not bigger success on this framework),
if we go to T4 how the core team think to maintain the compatibility of
T4 apps in T5?

- About support, how its works? do Tapestry community have support in
Europe? (Portugal), and if  yes how can we have some courses?

I hope that somehow everyone on this community can help to answer my
questions.
Thanks for all reading me.

Best regards,
Fernando Pereira




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