I think a fork, from which a patch can be generated ... might as well
leverage that read-only Git goodness.

I think, for the most part, the changes will be very localized; i.e.,
changes to tapestry.js, DocumentLinkerImpl, etc.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Cordenier Christophe
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for this detailed guidance.
>
> We have one more question, What is the best way to start working on this 
> subject : build a contribution to Tapestry or a start from a Tapestry 5 fork ?
>
> At the moment we have started working on a contribution and we will keep in 
> mind these crucial goals :
> Goal #1: Backwards compatibility
> Goal #2: Documented
> Goal #3: Plugability / Extensibility / Overridablilty
>
> Sources will be available as soon as we have something to show to the 
> community.
>
> Best Regards,
> Christophe Cordenier and Robin Komiwes.
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:[email protected]]
> Envoyé : jeudi 28 janvier 2010 20:16
> À : Tapestry development
> Objet : Re: About TAP5-486 / Tapestry 5 JQuery
>
> Here's my thoughts about the direct challenges, plus other thoughts
> I've had on this subject.
>
> tapestry.js defines a Tapestry namespace with key function properties
> for the standard stuff.
>
> Perhaps there's even a Tapestry.$ to replace the Prototype $ function.
>
> I would be open to naming this "T5" for succinctness, rather than
> Tapestry (with perhaps a Tapestry object that was a link to T5, for
> backwards compatibility).
>
> I think we could also split the current contents of tapestry.js into
> more and smaller files (with the expectation of recombining them as
> part of Javascript Aggregation).
>
> In addition to tapestry.js, you would include either
> tapestry-prototype-adapter.js (plus prototype.js and scriptaculous.js)
> OR tapestry-jquery-adapter.js (plus jquery.js).
>
> There are still many hurdles to this; much of the code in tapestry.js
> is based on Prototype Classes, which causes some issues with being
> library agnostic (not insurmountable) but also reflects my relative
> inexperience with modern JavaScript (circa 2006, 2007).  It's a bit of
> coding Java in JavaScript, rather than embracing JavaScript as its own
> beast.
>
> Nowadays I do much, much, much more with functional closures, and less
> with classes, and that should be more fully embraced.
>
> In addition, as I've worked with clients to extend and override how
> Tapestry's client side code operates, I've realized I should be doing
> much more with events and less with specific objects.  My vision for
> where tapestry.js goes in the future would be smaller handlers that
> often just fire additional events; a cascade of events that eventually
> results in server-side requests.
>
> In addition, there's the desire to make certain parts more pluggable,
> such as how input fields are decorated (the popup bubbles). Some love
> 'em, many hate 'em, it should be possible to override this (perhaps by
> providing an alternate JS file and a ApplicationDefaults override).
>
> Goal #1: Backwards compatibility
> Goal #2: Documented
> Goal #3: Plugability / Extensibility / Overridablilty
>
> May be time to print out tapestry.js and start looking for ways to
> accomplish these things (when I get back to Portland; I'm at a client
> site the rest of this week).
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Cordenier Christophe
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are currently planning to work on integrating jQuery into Tapestry at our 
>> company and share it with the community.
>> We would be very happy to contribute to the Tapestry 5 project.
>>
>> I would appreciate if you can give your vision of this kind of work, we have 
>> started to work like this :
>>
>> - Define an 'agnostic' tapestry.js that contains pure javascript/json 
>> declaration
>> - Develop a concrete implementation for jQuery technology
>> - Extend the clientInfrastructure to switch from one JS lib to other
>>
>> At the moment, we have only identified the problem related to this issue : 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-994
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Robin Komiwes & Christophe Cordenier.
>>
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