Feel the same. Fully agree with Robert Even if, Like Thiago I use m2eclipse in very good corporate distrib of eclipse.
2011/1/8 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <[email protected]> > I agree with everything Robert said in this thread, except that I do like > m2eclipse. There's also another Maven-Eclipse integration plugin, > http://code.google.com/p/q4e/, which is in the Eclipse incubator now. I > haven't tried it yet. > > > On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:10:43 -0200, Robert Zeigler < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I do use maven day-to-day. Releases and sub-projects are a pita, I agree. >> But: >> a) How often do we create tapestry subprojects? >> b) How often do we generate tapestry releases? >> c) How often do we: >> a) Compile code? >> b) Run tests? >> c) Do the day-to-day project management stuff that's required of >> a build? >> >> For a, b, and c, maven works fine (generally. Frankly, I can't stand the >> eclipse plugin for maven, so I do all of my maven work from the command >> line, with the help of some shell scripts that simplify my most commonly >> used commands). I'm simply saying that the pain of the relatively rare >> events of a and b shouldn't necessarily outweigh the benefit of a familiar >> environment for doing a, b, and c from people who may wish to contribute. >> For the long-term success of Tapestry, that's far more important than the >> occasional pain of a & b. I'm just saying it's worth thinking through a >> little and weighing the pros and cons for the community as a whole. >> >> Robert >> >> On Jan 7, 2011, at 1/73:59 PM , Howard Lewis Ship wrote: >> >> If you aren't using Maven day-to-day you may not realize what a huge pain >>> it >>> is, especially w.r.t. creating releases. >>> >>> It also gets in the way of creating new subprojects. >>> >>> Maven is a sunk cost and you don't keep throwing resources at a sunk cost >>> just because its cost you in the past. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Robert Zeigler >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> I haven't used gradle. I'm sure it's wonderful. I'm sure it beats the >>>> heck out of using maven. >>>> But. Do we really need to change build methodology /again/? We have a >>>> build. It works. It's not always the nicest thing in the world to work >>>> with*, but it works. People are familiar with it. Tools understand it. >>>> It just seems like another barrier to getting users to contribute if >>>> they >>>> have to install yet another piece of software. >>>> >>>> Just my $0.02. >>>> >>>> Robert >>>> >>>> * It can be made much more workable with a bit of shell scripting... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 7, 2011, at 1/73:32 PM , Howard Lewis Ship wrote: >>>> >>>> I really want to take a crack at converting Tapestry to build using >>>>> >>>> Gradle. >>>> >>>>> Does Hudson support Gradle yet? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>>>> >>>>> Creator of Apache Tapestry >>>>> >>>>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >>>>> >>>> learn >>>> >>>>> how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >>>>> >>>>> (971) 678-5210 >>>>> http://howardlewisship.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Howard M. Lewis Ship >>> >>> Creator of Apache Tapestry >>> >>> The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to >>> learn >>> how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! >>> >>> (971) 678-5210 >>> http://howardlewisship.com >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> > > -- > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer, > and instructor > Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda. > Consultor, desenvolvedor e instrutor em Java, Tapestry e Hibernate > Coordenador e professor da Especialização em Engenharia de Software com > Ênfase em Java da Faculdade Pitágoras > http://www.arsmachina.com.br > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
