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Marko A. Rodriguez commented on TINKERPOP-1474:
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I don't remember {{with('name')}}. My personal thinking on this is that if you 
didn't query for that data, you don't get that data. That is, {{ReferenceXXX}} 
by default. I think it is an overkill for GLV designers/maintainers to have to 
now have {{Vertex}} implementations with multi-/meta-properties, etc. It would 
be to the point where the GLV structure API is nearly as rich as the Java 
API.... thats alot of code.

> API Alignment Between Java Gremlin Graph Structure and GLVs
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TINKERPOP-1474
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1474
>             Project: TinkerPop
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: io
>    Affects Versions: 3.2.2
>            Reporter: Adam Holmberg
>
> The current Java GraphSON implementation and that in the Python GLV leave 
> some question about what *should* be returned from a simple traversal like 
> `g.V()`.
> The java implementation presently assumes that properties could be present 
> and returns a DetachedVertex: 
> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/gremlin-core/src/main/java/org/apache/tinkerpop/gremlin/structure/io/graphson/GraphSONSerializersV2d0.java#L420-L433
> The python implementation assumes no such thing and returns something more 
> reminiscent of a ReferenceVertex: 
> https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/gremlin-python/src/main/jython/gremlin_python/structure/io/graphson.py#L238-L242
> Is the java version overreaching, and should not expect properties unless a 
> step calls for them (e.g. ` g.V().valueMap()` or `g.V().values('name')`, or 
> should the Python version be expanded?
> Is there something we can do to establish guidelines for this, and align 
> these APIs?



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