Makes sense, as long as we have the basic logic nailed down for the steps / parameters / results, we can continue adding scenarios afterwards (new scenarios with the same step structure should work in any language).
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been away for a few days on vacation, but before I left, I made some > pretty decent progress on the remaining tests and I'm finding less and less > of my time being focused on the test logic and more and more of it on the > translation of the tests themselves. I'm starting to feel comfortable that > most of the remaining pain is in test translation which means I could > probably issue the PR for what I have sooner than later. I'll probably just > make sure that I have at least a "good enough" representation of tests for > each step and then issue the PR. That will allow TINKERPOP-1827 to proceed > more easily and I can work more at more relaxed pace on migrating all the > tests. Please let me know if there are any concerns with that approach. > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 5:02 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra <jorgebaygon...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > I've created TINKERPOP-1827 to track the progress of the test suite > runner > > for Gremlin .NET. > > > > I have a working gherkin-based runner that executes the steps (parsing > > gremlin groovy / parameters / results) as defined in the TINKERPOP-1784 > WIP > > branch. > > > > https://github.com/jorgebay/tinkerpop/commits/gherkin-cs-runner > > > > I'll wait for TINKERPOP-1784 to be resolved in order the follow the last > > changes and submit a pull request for it. > > > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra < > > jorgebaygon...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > > > Ok. > > > Going back to my initial comment regarding enums: don't mind, I've > > > included the possibility to use enums on the C# parser. > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Stephen Mallette < > spmalle...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> I guess there wouldn't be a problem with that, though having it the > way > > it > > >> works now was a nice check to ensure that the ScriptEngine was > > configured > > >> properly. I guess that shouldn't be the focus on this body of tests > > >> though. > > >> We should be more concerned that the elements of the Gremlin language > > >> actually work. > > >> > > >> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra < > > >> jorgebaygon...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > I see that for most languages using bytecode to native language > > >> translator > > >> > would be the easiest solution. In the case of the JavaScript GLV, it > > >> would > > >> > be fairly straightforward to implement (and I plan to do so!). > > >> > In the case of C#, being more strict regarding typing than java, it > > >> would > > >> > be an incomplete solution. For example: > > >> > > > >> > Consider the following traversal in Java: g.V().values("age") > > >> > The type parameter for values() method is inferred at runtime and > > things > > >> > "just works" thanks to type erasure. > > >> > > > >> > In the case of C#, it should be written as > g.V().Values<int>("age") , > > >> with > > >> > the type parameter to specify which type of traverser are you > > expecting > > >> at > > >> > a compile time. > > >> > > > >> > That's why it wont be possible to make a generic translator from > > >> bytecode > > >> > to C# code, without understanding which generic types are expected. > > >> > > > >> > In the case of C#, I was going for a translator on the C# side that > > >> > tokenizes the gremlin traversal. Once the traversal is tokenized, in > > the > > >> > moment of invoking the methods (with reflection), it can be made > aware > > >> of > > >> > the modern graph data (with datatypes!), ie: For method Values<>(), > if > > >> the > > >> > property key is "age" -> use int as generic type parameter. > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Stephen Mallette < > > spmalle...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > I can't help thinking that perhaps non-JVM languages need to > > leverage > > >> > > bytecode to make traversal building easier. We already have an > > >> > established > > >> > > pattern for converting bytecode into Traversals and while it is > > >> different > > >> > > for each language, it's generally governed by the Translator > > >> interface. > > >> > > Note that we already do this for Java, Groovy, and Python and the > > code > > >> > > isn't too crazy - just 200 lines or so: > > >> > > > > >> > > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/gremlin- > > >> > > core/src/main/java/org/apache/tinkerpop/gremlin/jsr223/ > > >> > JavaTranslator.java > > >> > > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/gremlin- > > >> > > groovy/src/main/java/org/apache/tinkerpop/gremlin/groovy/jsr223/ > > >> > > GroovyTranslator.java > > >> > > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/master/gremlin- > > >> > > python/src/main/java/org/apache/tinkerpop/gremlin/python/jsr223/ > > >> > > PythonTranslator.java > > >> > > > > >> > > I think that non-JVM languages could send the Gremlin string from > > the > > >> > test > > >> > > to Gremlin Server as a script first and return the bytecode as > JSON. > > >> Then > > >> > > it could use a "Translator" to then parse it into it's native > > >> language. > > >> > > Shouldn't we just build a CSharpTranslator similar to these? does > > that > > >> > make > > >> > > sense? > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra < > > >> > > jorgebaygon...@gmail.com > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > I've been looking over the current test scenarios on the > > >> TINKERPOP-1784 > > >> > > > branch, with the C# GLV test suite in mind, and oh man that's an > > >> > > impressive > > >> > > > amount of scenarios! > > >> > > > > > >> > > > So far, I have a suggestion. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Instead of > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Scenario: g_V_fold_countXlocalX > > >> > > > Given the modern graph > > >> > > > And the traversal of > > >> > > > """ > > >> > > > g.V().fold().count(Scope.local) > > >> > > > """ > > >> > > > > > >> > > > We could use > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Scenario: g_V_fold_countXlocalX > > >> > > > Given the modern graph > > >> > > > And parameter 1 being an enum > > >> > > > """ > > >> > > > Scope.local > > >> > > > """ > > >> > > > And the traversal of > > >> > > > """ > > >> > > > g.V().fold().count(param1) > > >> > > > """ > > >> > > > > > >> > > > That way we can exclude enums from possible parameter values, > > >> narrowing > > >> > > > down the amount of types of parameters allowed, ie: const > numeric, > > >> > const > > >> > > > strings (wrapped in double quotes), traversals (starting with > > `__`) > > >> , > > >> > > ..., > > >> > > > making parsing the traversal a little easier. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Stephen Mallette < > > >> > spmalle...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Just a quick update on this item - it continues........ > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Went down a bad path earlier in the week and ended up > shelving a > > >> lot > > >> > of > > >> > > > > work - ended up just coded into a corner. Anyway, I've not > > really > > >> > > changed > > >> > > > > much in the implementation, but I've still not reached a point > > >> where > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > addition of a new .feature files comes without meeting some > new > > >> type > > >> > of > > >> > > > > assertion that has to be dealt with. This ends up slowing down > > >> > progress > > >> > > > on > > >> > > > > porting over the tests. Please feel free to peruse the latest > > >> changes > > >> > > on > > >> > > > > the branch and let me know if there's any feedback. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Stephen Mallette < > > >> > > spmalle...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I did some pretty heavy refactoring to the python test logic > > >> > > (altered a > > >> > > > > > bit by some revision of the gherkin feature file language) > and > > >> the > > >> > > > result > > >> > > > > > is a much more simplified test logic file: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1784/ > > >> > > > > > gremlin-python/src/main/jython/radish/feature_steps.py > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > About 120 lines of code (down from about 170). If you > include > > >> the > > >> > > test > > >> > > > > > logic "setup" file: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1784/ > > >> > > > > > gremlin-python/src/main/jython/radish/terrain.py > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > we end up with about 250 lines of test logic total (take out > > the > > >> > > > > > comment/license and we're probably well under 200 total - > not > > >> too > > >> > > > bad). I > > >> > > > > > think I'm closing in on the end to infrastructure building > > here > > >> so > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > basic framework is getting close to final at this point I > > >> believe. > > >> > > I'll > > >> > > > > > keep scanning the tests looking for other types of > assertions > > >> that > > >> > > I've > > >> > > > > not > > >> > > > > > yet covered, but it's getting pretty solid I think. > Hopefully, > > >> > there > > >> > > > > won't > > >> > > > > > need to be too many more lines of code needed to express the > > >> test > > >> > > logic > > >> > > > > as > > >> > > > > > I like how things are looking right now. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra < > > >> > > > > > jorgebaygon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> Great progress! I like how you avoided using ids, even if > it > > >> adds > > >> > > some > > >> > > > > >> complexity to the transformation required. > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> The Python step definitions are still quite simple, I think > > it > > >> > would > > >> > > > be > > >> > > > > >> mostly the same on the rest of the languages. > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Stephen Mallette < > > >> > > > spmalle...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Just another update on progress with the test suite. The > > >> > language > > >> > > of > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > >> > .feature files is getting slightly more complex as I try > to > > >> > > > translate > > >> > > > > >> more > > >> > > > > >> > and more of our Java process suite tests into the > language > > of > > >> > the > > >> > > > > >> gherkin > > >> > > > > >> > files. You can see here where I've added the ability to > > >> include > > >> > > > > >> parameters: > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1784/ > > >> > > > > >> > gremlin-test/features/filter/Has.feature#L33 > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > I also came up with a method of asserting edges (didn't > > want > > >> to > > >> > > rely > > >> > > > > on > > >> > > > > >> ids > > >> > > > > >> > as it makes the gherkin harder to read, plus i didn't > want > > to > > >> > > assume > > >> > > > > >> > TinkerGraph identifiers in case these tests were every > used > > >> with > > >> > > > some > > >> > > > > >> other > > >> > > > > >> > graph database that didn't use longs): > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1784/ > > >> > > > > >> > gremlin-test/features/map/Vertex.feature#L105-L111 > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > for all those additions (and others) the logic required > by > > >> the > > >> > GLV > > >> > > > to > > >> > > > > >> > process these tests has stayed surprisingly simple: > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1784/ > > >> > > > > >> > gremlin-python/src/main/jython/radish/feature_steps.py > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > There's a fair bit of regex/string manipulation involved > > >> there, > > >> > > but > > >> > > > > it's > > >> > > > > >> > processing strings from the feature file so that's the > > >> nature of > > >> > > it > > >> > > > I > > >> > > > > >> > suppose. I think I'm of the mind that I want to port all > of > > >> the > > >> > > > tests > > >> > > > > to > > >> > > > > >> > feature files, so I wrote this unit test to help validate > > >> that > > >> > > none > > >> > > > > were > > >> > > > > >> > missed: > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/tinkerpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1784/ > > >> > > > > >> > gremlin-test/src/test/java/org/apache/tinkerpop/gremlin/ > > >> > > > > >> > structure/FeatureCoverageTest.java > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > I don't know that we have to get to 100% porting right > > away, > > >> > but I > > >> > > > > think > > >> > > > > >> > that once we have these gherkin files written they not > only > > >> > become > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > > >> > basis for our current GLV testing work, but we might be > > able > > >> to > > >> > > > simply > > >> > > > > >> use > > >> > > > > >> > them for testing the Java stuff as well - that would rid > us > > >> of > > >> > > > having > > >> > > > > >> the > > >> > > > > >> > test code duplication. It also sets us up with a portable > > >> body > > >> > of > > >> > > > > tests > > >> > > > > >> > that can be re-used in TinkerPop 4.x. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra < > > >> > > > > >> > jorgebaygon...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > I was able to build a proof of concept for a > > Gherkin-based > > >> > test > > >> > > > > >> runner in > > >> > > > > >> > > C#, that takes the proposed count and select features > > >> > > > > >> > > <https://github.com/apache/ > > tinkerpop/tree/TINKERPOP-1784/ > > >> > > > > >> > > gremlin-test/features/map> > > >> > > > > >> > > and runs them using C# step definitions. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > It uses the Gherkin parser < > > https://github.com/cucumber/g > > >> > > > > >> herkin-dotnet> > > >> > > > > >> > > from > > >> > > > > >> > > cucumber, there isn't a release of the parser with .NET > > >> Core > > >> > > > support > > >> > > > > >> so > > >> > > > > >> > > I've > > >> > > > > >> > > asked them to release one > > >> > > > > >> > > <https://github.com/cucumber/gherkin-dotnet/issues/11> > > >> (there > > >> > > is > > >> > > > no > > >> > > > > >> > > limitation from their source files). If they are not > able > > >> to > > >> > > > release > > >> > > > > >> it > > >> > > > > >> > in > > >> > > > > >> > > the next few days, we can implement our own as it > should > > be > > >> > > pretty > > >> > > > > >> > straight > > >> > > > > >> > > forward. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Stephen Mallette < > > >> > > > > >> spmalle...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks for the update. I'm trying to keep the test > > >> language > > >> > as > > >> > > > > >> simple > > >> > > > > >> > as > > >> > > > > >> > > > possible so that we don't need an overly complicated > > test > > >> > > > > >> > implementation. > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hopefully that will help make the .NET approach as > easy > > >> as > > >> > > > > possible. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Jorge Bay Gondra < > > >> > > > > >> > > > jorgebaygon...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > I've been looking into Gherkin support for .NET: > > >> SpecFlow, > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > >> > cucumber > > >> > > > > >> > > > > implementation for .NET <https://cucumber.io/docs# > > >> > > > > >> > > > cucumber-implementations > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > does not support .NET Core platform (we use .NET > Core > > >> > build > > >> > > > > tools > > >> > > > > >> for > > >> > > > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > .NET GLV) and only supports .NET Framework. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > From what I can see <https://github.com/techtalk/S > > >> > > > > >> pecFlow/projects/2 > > >> > > > > >> > >, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > .NET > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Core support on SpecFlow is coming at a very slow > > pace > > >> and > > >> > > we > > >> > > > > >> > shouldn't > > >> > > > > >> > > > > expect to land any time soon (there were some > design > > >> > > decisions > > >> > > > > in > > >> > > > > >> > > > SpecFlow > > >> > > > > >> > > > > library that makes supporting other platforms > > >> non-trivial, > > >> > > > like > > >> > > > > >> > > requiring > > >> > > > > >> > > > > code gen). > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > The alternative would be to implement our own > harness > > >> to > > >> > > > support > > >> > > > > >> it: > > >> > > > > >> > > > from a > > >> > > > > >> > > > > xunit test, look for certain types and parse the > > >> > > annotations, > > >> > > > > and > > >> > > > > >> > > execute > > >> > > > > >> > > > > them using the Gherkin features. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > There is a .NET cross-platform Gherkin parser: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > https://github.com/cucumber/gherkin-dotnet > > >> > > > > >> > > > > I'll continue looking into this option and try to > > >> > understand > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > > >> > effort > > >> > > > > >> > > > > required... > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Jorge Bay Gondra < > > >> > > > > >> > > > > jorgebaygon...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Nice! Gherkin will make our lives easier with a > > >> growing > > >> > > > number > > >> > > > > >> of > > >> > > > > >> > > GLVs. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > We should find a way to define the different > > features > > >> > > > > supported > > >> > > > > >> by > > >> > > > > >> > > each > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > GLV, as it's reasonable to have different > maturity > > >> > levels > > >> > > > per > > >> > > > > >> GLV > > >> > > > > >> > > (ie: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > lambdas support, traversal strategy, ...). I > don't > > >> know > > >> > if > > >> > > > it > > >> > > > > >> will > > >> > > > > >> > be > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > beneficial to do it in the Gherkin files or > within > > >> each > > >> > > GLV > > >> > > > > >> > > > > implementation. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Also, we should consider the process of rolling > > out a > > >> > new > > >> > > > > >> method / > > >> > > > > >> > > > class > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > in the java implementation, how that could affect > > >> each > > >> > > GLV. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Stephen > Mallette > > < > > >> > > > > >> > > > spmalle...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> that's what i meant by "reflection" or as you > > >> suggest > > >> > > > > eval(). I > > >> > > > > >> > > guess > > >> > > > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> point is that if the language can support some > way > > >> of > > >> > > > taking > > >> > > > > >> the > > >> > > > > >> > > > string > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> value and turning it automatically into a > > traversal > > >> in > > >> > > that > > >> > > > > >> GLVs > > >> > > > > >> > > style > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> then > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> we should do that. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Daniel Kuppitz > > >> > > > > >> <m...@gremlin.guru> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > For unparameterized queries it can probably be > > as > > >> > easy > > >> > > > as: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > @given("the traversal of") > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > def translate_traversal(step): > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > g = step.context.g > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > step.context.traversal = eval(step.text) > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Cheers, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Daniel > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Daniel > Kuppitz > > >> > > > > >> <m...@gremlin.guru > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > That's great stuff. I haven't used Cucumber > / > > >> > Gherkin > > >> > > > for > > >> > > > > >> > years, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > but I > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > really like the BDD approach. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > and then you can look at the GLV Gremlin > > >> > translations > > >> > > > > >> > > specifically > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> here: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/tink > > >> > > > > >> erpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1784/grem > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> lin-python/src/main/jython/ > > >> > > > > radish/count_features_step.py# > > >> > > > > >> > > L34-L46 > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > This part is the only thing that looks weird > > to > > >> me. > > >> > > > > You're > > >> > > > > >> > > > basically > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > writing every query twice; is there really > no > > >> > easier > > >> > > > way > > >> > > > > >> to do > > >> > > > > >> > > > that? > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Cheers, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Daniel > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Stephen > > >> Mallette < > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> spmalle...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> I've brought this issue up in the past and > > had > > >> > > > suggested > > >> > > > > >> some > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> options I > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> had > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> in mind but now I've finally put the basics > > of > > >> > those > > >> > > > > >> ideas in > > >> > > > > >> > > > place > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> so I > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> figured I'd start a fresh thread. Recall > that > > >> the > > >> > > > issue > > >> > > > > at > > >> > > > > >> > hand > > >> > > > > >> > > > is > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> that > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > we > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> don't have a test suite for GLVs as > > >> gremlin-test > > >> > is > > >> > > > > bound > > >> > > > > >> to > > >> > > > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> JVM. We > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> have some tricks that let us test > > >> gremlin-python > > >> > > with > > >> > > > it > > >> > > > > >> but > > >> > > > > >> > > > those > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > tricks > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> won't work for every language and we now > have > > >> the > > >> > > > first > > >> > > > > >> > > language > > >> > > > > >> > > > in > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> gremlin-dotnet and upcoming > > gremlin-javascript > > >> > which > > >> > > > > won't > > >> > > > > >> > > > support > > >> > > > > >> > > > > it > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> (yes, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> i know that gremlin-javascript can run on > the > > >> jvm > > >> > > but > > >> > > > > >> there > > >> > > > > >> > are > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> issues > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> with > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> getting it all to work with the test > > framework > > >> > that > > >> > > > make > > >> > > > > >> it > > >> > > > > >> > > > unduly > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> complicated). > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> On other threads I offered the idea that we > > >> look > > >> > to > > >> > > > use > > >> > > > > >> > Gherkin > > >> > > > > >> > > > to > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> write > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> general Gremlin test specifications, which > > then > > >> > > could > > >> > > > be > > >> > > > > >> read > > >> > > > > >> > > and > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> processed > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> by the wide variety of test frameworks that > > can > > >> > read > > >> > > > > that > > >> > > > > >> > > format > > >> > > > > >> > > > - > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> there > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> tend to be Gherkin processors in just about > > >> every > > >> > > > > >> language - > > >> > > > > >> > > for > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > example, > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> see: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> https://cucumber.io/ > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> I just created this issue: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/ > > >> > > jira/browse/TINKERPOP-1784 > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> and pushed this branch: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/ > > >> > > > tinkerpop/tree/TINKERPOP-1784 > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> which demonstrates how this works with > > >> > > gremlin-python. > > >> > > > > The > > >> > > > > >> > > basic > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> anatomy > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> of > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> this setup involves this new directory in > > >> > > > gremlin-test: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/tink > > >> > > > > >> erpop/tree/TINKERPOP-1784/grem > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> lin-test/features > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> It contains the Gherkin .features files. > > These > > >> are > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > >> test > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> specifications. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> They are written using gremlin-java as the > > >> "model" > > >> > > > > >> language. > > >> > > > > >> > > GLVs > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> will > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> then > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> need to write some infrastructure to > process > > >> these > > >> > > > > Gherkin > > >> > > > > >> > > files. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > The > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > key > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> to making this "easy" to implement will lie > > in > > >> our > > >> > > > > >> abiilty to > > >> > > > > >> > > > keep > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> assertions we want to have relatively > simple. > > >> The > > >> > > more > > >> > > > > >> > > simplistic > > >> > > > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> language in the Gherkin .feature files the > > >> easier > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > job > > >> > > > > >> it > > >> > > > > >> > > will > > >> > > > > >> > > > > be > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> for > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> GLVs to build their infrastructure. Of > > course, > > >> > once > > >> > > > that > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> infrastructure > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > is > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> in place, the GLV developer just has to > write > > >> the > > >> > > GLV > > >> > > > > >> version > > >> > > > > >> > > of > > >> > > > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> Gremlin specified in the .feature file. So > > you > > >> can > > >> > > > look > > >> > > > > at > > >> > > > > >> > all > > >> > > > > >> > > > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> "infrastructure" code here in this pair of > > >> files: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/tink > > >> > > > > >> erpop/tree/TINKERPOP-1784/grem > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> lin-python/src/main/jython/radish > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> and then you can look at the GLV Gremlin > > >> > > translations > > >> > > > > >> > > > specifically > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> here: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> https://github.com/apache/tink > > >> > > > > >> erpop/blob/TINKERPOP-1784/grem > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> lin-python/src/main/jython/ > > >> > > > > radish/count_features_step.py# > > >> > > > > >> > > L34-L46 > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> I think this approach works pretty well and > > >> solves > > >> > > our > > >> > > > > >> > general > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> problems > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> for > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> GLV testing. There is some pain up front in > > >> > > > implementing > > >> > > > > >> the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> "infrastructure" but after that new Gremlin > > >> tests > > >> > > > added > > >> > > > > to > > >> > > > > >> > > > .feature > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > files > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> just need to translated in the GLV. I > suppose > > >> we > > >> > > could > > >> > > > > >> > > > "automate" a > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> good > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> portion of the translation with reflection > of > > >> some > > >> > > > sort. > > >> > > > > >> > > Anything > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> else > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> could just be handled manually. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> Not sure if we need to use this new model > to > > >> > wholly > > >> > > > > >> replace > > >> > > > > >> > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > old > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> one. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> The process test suite has its place in > > helping > > >> > > graph > > >> > > > > >> > database > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> providers > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> test their stuff. I also imagine that > > >> introducing > > >> > > this > > >> > > > > >> > approach > > >> > > > > >> > > > in > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> that > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> context would create a breaking change > which > > we > > >> > > would > > >> > > > > then > > >> > > > > >> > need > > >> > > > > >> > > > to > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> push > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> off > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> to 3.4.0. I suppose that gives us time to > > >> think, > > >> > > but > > >> > > > > for > > >> > > > > >> now > > >> > > > > >> > > it > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> might > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > not > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> be best to conflate the two and just treat > > >> them as > > >> > > > > >> separate > > >> > > > > >> > > > aspects > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> of > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> test suite. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> Anyway - it's important we settle on an > > >> approach > > >> > to > > >> > > > > >> testing > > >> > > > > >> > as > > >> > > > > >> > > we > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> really > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> shouldn't do a GA release of the Gremlin > .NET > > >> GLV > > >> > > > > without > > >> > > > > >> > > getting > > >> > > > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > test > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> suite solid. please yell if you have any > > ideas > > >> or > > >> > > > > >> feedback on > > >> > > > > >> > > > this > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> approach. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >