Are you thinking of another mid-stream change or something for TinkerPop
3.4 or 4.0?

Robert Dale


On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:35 PM Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes - I did consider killing instantiation through a Graph except that:
>
> 1. It felt like a major major departure from what we have been doing and if
> users have been using things like GraphFactory to instantiate graphs then
> they might continue to expect that support (currently supported by
> RemoteGraph)
> 2. Given 1 above, the test suite is one of those things that relies on
> that...........
> 3. Didn't really think of a suitable API that I loved to suggest dealing
> with the fallout of 1 and 2, but perhaps I didn't try hard enough.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:05 PM Robert Dale <robd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Why does it have to be a graph at all?  Maybe getting a traversal from a
> > graph is the wrong concept and that's why it perplexes you so.  We're
> > connecting to a server that can contain one or more graphs.  The
> traversal
> > should probably come off the connection or be standalone. Maybe the
> > traversal takes a graph.
> >
> > Robert Dale
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:01 PM Stephen Mallette <spmalle...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I've never been quite settled on how to connect to remote graphs. For a
> > > while we had RemoteGraph but that wasn't useful really because it was
> > > largely non-functional, as you really just needed a remote configured
> > > TraversalSource - so we deprecated that. TraversalSource.withRemote()
> is
> > > fine, but you can't get to it without a Graph implementation to create
> > the
> > > TraversalSource in the first place. For that we started to use
> > EmptyGraph,
> > > which works, but is a bit confusing, but less confusing than using say,
> > > TinkerGraph, JanusGraph, etc.
> > >
> > > So, how do we nicely create a TraversalSource, that is meant to call
> > > withRemote()?
> > >
> > > We could create a new Graph implementation that's like EmptyGraph,
> called
> > > ReferenceGraph, which would behave in the same fashion, but at least it
> > > sorta fits because remoting only returns "Reference" elements. I
> suppose
> > > ReferenceGraph is somewhere in between EmptyGraph and RemoteGraph in
> > terms
> > > of functionality so maybe it makes more sense usability wise than the
> > > extremes of the other two? I wonder if ReferenceGraph is even a Graph
> > > instance?? maybe it just has a single static method like:
> > >
> > > g = ReferenceGraph.traversal(conf)
> > >
> > > where traversal() constructs a GraphTraversalSource and proxies calls
> to
> > > withRemote()? Not sure what happens to DSLs though...that might be
> > trouble.
> > >
> > > Anyway, it's a DISCUSS - so let's discuss.............
> > >
> >
>

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