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Marko A. Rodriguez commented on TINKERPOP3-863: ----------------------------------------------- With the ability to turn off bulking (which will be necessary for almost any type of "energy flow" algorithm using sacks), check out how simple the following query become. BEFORE {{TraverserRequirement.ONE_BULK}}: {code} g.withSack([1.0,0.0],sackSum).V(middle).repeat( union(out('right').sack{a,b -> [coin * (a[0] + a[1]),0]}, out('left').sack{a,b -> [0,coin * (a[0] - a[1])]}).barrier().sideEffect{it.setBulk(1)}).times(loops). group().by(id).by(sack().fold([0,0],sackSum)).order(local).by(keyDecr).next() {code} AFTER {{TraverserRequirement.ONE_BULK}}: {code} g.withBulk(false).withSack([1.0,0.0],sackSum).V(middle).repeat( sack{a,b -> [coin * (a[0] + a[1]),coin * (a[0] - a[1])]}. union(out('right').sack{a,b -> [a[0],0]}, out('left').sack{a,b -> [0,a[1]]}).barrier()).times(50). group().by(id).by(sack().fold([0,0],sackSum)).order(local).by(keyDecr) {code} This is what was removed: {code} .barrier().sideEffect{it.setBulk(1)} {code} ...realize that there is a more complex algorithm I'm running where the energy can run forward and backward in time. The ability to get the {{barrier().sideEffect{it.setBulk(1)}}} locations right was a nightmare and I know how Gremlin works under the hood. So, in short, this is a blessing. > [Proposal] Turn off bulking -- or is there something more general? (hope not). > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Key: TINKERPOP3-863 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TINKERPOP3-863 > Project: TinkerPop 3 > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: process > Affects Versions: 3.1.0-incubating > Reporter: Marko A. Rodriguez > Assignee: Marko A. Rodriguez > Fix For: 3.1.0-incubating > > > I have a general question -- sometimes you want bulking and sometimes you > don't. Why would you no want bulking? Well, lets say you have sack being 1.0 > and you want to represent energy diffusion and thus, if a traverser splits > and goes to two adjacent neighbors, then each sack will be 0.5. Now, lets say > those two traverser merge on the next step (a diamond shaped graph), the > merged traverser's sack is 1.0 (excellent!). However, its bulk is 2. > Dah............. Then the total energy in the graph is 2.0. > Should we simply have "bulk" and "no bulk" or do we come up with a "bulk > merge" model where users can ONLY add bulks (current default and the only > method), multiple bulks, min/max bulks, etc. etc…………………….. Scared that the > generalization might be an overkill. > The difference is: > {code} > g.withBulk(false)….. // binary -- don't use bulking. > g.withBulk(true)... // default behavior that is currently just sum the bulks > together. > // or do we go with > g.withBulk(mult)….. // when two traversers merge, multiply their bulks.. why > would you do that, I have no idea, but its general. > g.withBulk(one) … // would be like binary=false .. always merge to 1 and > thus, one BinaryOpeartor(x,y) -> 1 > {code} > Is this generalization of the bulk merge operator useful? Or do we say -- if > you want to do complex functions on "energy" (bulk), you do it via > sack........................ -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332)