Dylan, thanks for your thoughts here. The Gremlin Server docs are really just for reference at this point. As you've pointed out, we could do more to improve people's understanding of that part of the stack. I've been hesitant in writing more documentation in this area as I've been waiting for more of the stack to settle and better implementations patterns to emerge. I think that started with RemoteGraph which we will have in 3.2.x as that's opened up a lot of new ideas both on and off the JVM as we consider ways to stop doing the classic SQL-ish way of passing long strings to a database server. I don't know that we need a Gremlin Server specific site - but maybe i'm not sure of what you have in mind. I've been thinking that the time is coming where we will want to have a solid Gremlin Server tutorial though (perhaps several with different connectivity patterns for different languages). ??
Pieter, you don't lose any backend optimizations with Gremlin Server. The same Traversal Strategies that would fire in embedded mode would fire in Gremlin Server. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:14 PM, pieter-gmail <pieter.mar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > What I would add to the gist is the latency penalty. As a java guy and > db guy its the bane off my live, OO devolves into query strings because > of latency and eventually one feels like one would be better of with > 60's tech writing stored procedures and PLSQL. > > Anther one is the fact that dbs compete in the space where they do not > follow the specification. Does Gremlin Server make one loose any > particular backends optimizations? > > I have never used Gremlin Server so perhaps my concerns are moot, but if > they are on a website like you propose I'd read it. > > Cheers > Pieter > > On 22/03/2016 20:31, Dylan Millikin wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > Coming from a non-java background I've been thinking about what steps > could > > be taken to improve the project's reach in these communities. As time has > > gone by I've added some thoughts to the following gist (they are just > > thoughts at this point, some may be unrelated or simply not possible) : > > https://gist.github.com/PommeVerte/2fc463be9c418b465456 > > > > The one I want to talk about in this email is about the benefits of > having > > a Gremlin server dedicated space on the website (ideally with it's own > URL > > for clarity and SEO purposes, though I'm unsure what Apache guidelines > are > > here). > > > > Right now if I'm new to graph *databases* (emphasis) and am looking to > get > > started, the TinkerPop website is not inviting. There's a lot of > > information about the stack (purposfuly so) and I'm instantly lost in a > > bunch of information I can't relate to. So I just go to Neo4J and learn > > cypher ;p > > > > I understand that Gremlin server is a commodity for implementors and not > an > > actual database. But I think there's value in promoting it as one. Typing > > "graph database" in google should bring Gremlin Server up, if only to > make > > people aware that they have the option of using it with the DB of their > > choice. > > > > I wanted to reach out and hear what your thoughts on the subject were. > Also > > perhaps this is within the scope of "tinkerland" and is already being > taken > > care of. I wouldn't know at this stage. > > > >
