On Wed, Feb 11, 2026 at 11:34 AM Mark Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 11/02/2026 10:15, Michael Osipov wrote:
> > On 2026/02/10 17:54:26 Mark Thomas wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> If we can get users off the APR connector and, for those that need
> >> OpenSSL, using Tomcat Native 2.0.x rather than 1.3.x the 9.0.x to 9.1.x
> >> migration will be no different to a point release update.
> >>
> >> With that in mind, what do folks think about the following:
> >>
> >> (keep in mind this will happen *after* the 9.0.x EOS, 9.x LTS and Tomcat
> >> Native 1.3.x EOS announcements)
> >>
> >> 1. Increase the minimum recommended version of Tomcat Native to 2.0.12
> >> for 10.1.x onwards.
> >>
> >> 2. For 9.0.x, log a warning if the APR/Native connector is used
> >> recommending switching to NIO / NIO+OpenSSL if they want the OpenSSL TLS
> >> implementation.
> >>
> >> I initially thought of making the minimum recommended version of Tomcat
> >> Native 2.0.12 for 9.0.x as well but that would mean an out of the box
> >> Tomcat 9 install is going to warn that Tomcat Native should be upgraded.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >
> > I have a few:
> >
> > * Add the warning to 1.3.x configure.ac as well
>
> That should be doable.
>
> > * We have a half-state of terms in the source tree:
> >> osipovmi@deblndw011x:~/var/Projekte/tomcat (apache-main =)
> >> $ find . -name Apr\*
> >> ./java/org/apache/catalina/core/AprLifecycleListener.java
> >> ./java/org/apache/tomcat/jni/AprStatus.java
> >
> > Any plans to make this right? E.g., get rid of Apr in favor of TomcatNative?
> > There might be also other spots as well.
>
> No plans at present. It would be a disruptive change for no functional
> benefit.
>
> Tomcat Native will (eventually) go away in favour of FFM. I am hopeful
> that will start in Tomcat 13.
>
> There are options if we wanted to implement this renaming but it is
> going to create arguably unnecessary migration work if we remove the APR
> variants before Tomcat 13. And if we don't remove the APR variants
> before Tomcat 13 why bother with the renaming since the new versions
> will get removed then too.

Indeed, I don't think we should be wasting people's time for a cosmetic issue.

Rémy

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