n Tue, Nov 3, 2026 at 8:21 PM Mark Thomas via dev <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 03/11/2026 12:18, Rémy Maucherat via dev wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2026 at 11:37 AM Mark Thomas via dev
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
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> <snip/>
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> >> My reviews have speed up considerably this morning. There is a clear
> >> correlation between code complexity and speed of review / further fixes
> >> being required. That suggests to me that we need to be using more
> >> powerful models for the more complex code. Maybe look at using the free
> >> AI credits for those models that have been offered to ASF committers?
> >
> > Obviously if the issue is simple, it will work out better ! (also
> > applies to me if I try to fix an issue !)
>
> Same here :).
>
> > To be honest, I think the models I have on hand are more than good
> > enough and are able to do complex tasks.
> > However, there are some issues and I need to use them better in some
> > cases. The main limitation I have to work around when I'm using a
> > "small" "fast" model is that the context is limited to 256K, and for
> > some models the quality degrades a lot after compaction. Also my
> > review step was very suboptimal. And of course my manual review step
> > after the changes is far from perfect (= it's the worst).
>
> Yes. I am finding the models are picking up a lot more things than I would.
>
> > Although the HTTP/3 experiment was written with the small models, the
> > review steps were done by "big" models (with 1M context; technically
> > only 512K was ever reached). The main reason is that the components
> > are large and would lead to non stop compaction and useless results on
> > small models.
> >
> > I expect the small open models will show another capability leap
> > simply by increasing the context. I know I can use some stuff like
> > rope with the current models, but it seems accuracy goes down.
>
> Can you run your smaller models with a larger context?

Supposedly I can use
https://docs.vllm.ai/en/latest/features/context_extension/ to extend
the context up to 1M (512K in practice). But this does reduce accuracy
and it's not working for me.
I expect new models to switch to at least 512K, which would basically
solve the issue for most workloads. I have a model to test in that
category.

Note: llm.apache.org uses Qwen 3.8 27B (FP8) as its top model, but
only with a 128K context, to give you an idea.

Rémy

> Mark
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