On 06/17/2010 04:30 PM, Costin Manolache wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:56 AM, jean-frederic clere <jfcl...@gmail.com
> <mailto:jfcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 06/16/2010 07:44 PM, Costin Manolache wrote:
>     > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, jean-frederic clere
>     <jfcl...@gmail.com <mailto:jfcl...@gmail.com>>wrote:
>     >
>     >> On 06/16/2010 07:08 AM, Mladen Turk wrote:
>     >>> On 06/16/2010 12:34 AM, Costin Manolache wro te:
>     >>>> Hi,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> There are some methods in SSLContext to create and use a new
>     BIO. Are
>     >>>> there
>     >>>> any examples/tests for this ? I can't find how to attach the
>     BIO to a
>     >>>> socket, it seems SSL_set_bio is never called, can't figure what
>     >>>> SSLContext.setBIO() does.
>     >>>>
>     >>>
>     >>> I'd suggest you forget about those ;)
>     >>>
>     >>> SSL BIO allows to write a java code that will SSL use
>     >>> for read/write to the sockets.
>     >>> Jean-Frederic created those but cannot tell for what reason.
>     >>
>     >> The idea was to use java socket directly to have just the crypto
>     layer
>     >> done by SSL but tc-native went another way.
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     > I know - it allows one to use OpenSSL like SSLEngine - without
>     doing the
>     > network
>     > IO trough OpenSSL.
>     >
>     > I'm not worried about the 4-5 extra JNI calls - we're talking
>     about slow
>     > encryption here.
>     >
>     > For tomcat-lite - JSSE is a dead end, there is no way to support
>     SPDY and a
>     > lot of other
>     > things are bad/missing ( i.e. most SSL extensions - hostname, session
>     > tickets, etc ).
>     > However I want to separate the I/O from the encryption.
> 
>     May be we should just start another native module so that we don't need
>     to use APR but only OpenSSL.
> 
> 
> What do you mean by 'native module' ? I hope not another .so - it's hard
> enough to deal with this 
> one. Build, install, documentations, deb/rpm, etc. 

Well the actual tc-native.so depends on APR. I was thinking of something
that depends only on Openssl.

> 
> If you mean a separate directory - or just a set of files - that provide
> only JNI for OpenSSL, without 
> dependencies to APR, or with minimal deps - I think it's a great idea.

yep that would be great.

> OpenSSL has its own portability layer, so it doesn't really need APR -
> but there is no harm in having both in the same library.

That is more packaging issues then development.

> 
> The purpose of tc-native (IMHO) is to allow access to native libraries
> that provide better implementation than the Java one, or provide things
> that are not available in java. I think the original plan was to have it
> as a very thin layer - exposing as closely as possible the native
> library, up to pointers and alloc/free. 
> 
> But short term - either remove BIO if it's broken ( no point on having
> it if it can't be used), or better we should fix it and add a test.

Ok if we think we should go for a possibly thinner layer we should fix
it and provide examples.

Cheers

Jean-Frederic

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