Konstantin, On 9/11/13 12:32 PM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > 2013/9/11 Konstantin Preißer <verlag.preis...@t-online.de>: >> Hi Konstantin, >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Konstantin Kolinko [mailto:knst.koli...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 4:05 PM >>> >>> The header/main/footer tags are not in HTML 5. >>> >>> They are in 5.1 which is not a spec yet, just a draft. I think it is too >>> early to use >>> them. >> >> The <main> tag is only in HTML 5.1 [1], but <header> and <footer> are in >> HTML5 [2] which is a candidate recommendation, so I think it should be okay >> to use them - Firefox, Chrome and IE 9/10 support <header> and <footer> >> (they use "display: block;" CSS for it), but IE 9 and below will use <div> >> which is added with conditional comments. >> >> The <main> tag is not supported by IE 10 yet, so I added the CSS "main { >> display: block; }" to use the correct style in IE 10. However, Firefox 23 >> and Chrome 29 already support the <main> tag, so I think it would be OK to >> leave it. But we can remove it as the HTML 5 spec says, to mark the "main" >> content of a page, just leave it and mark everything else with "header" and >> "footer"; so I think, semantically, the <main> tag would not be needed. > > 1. All those <header><footer> are only marginally better than <div>. > Keep it simple. > > I do not like the use of conditional comments. > > 2. Not every server is connected to the internet and is kept > up-to-date to have the latest Firefox. I have to maintain Tomcat on > several servers that have old version of Firefox installed (such as > 3.6). This documentation will be broken there. [3] > (Well, it is not a show stopper. It would be a lot more trouble if we > broke the Manager application). > > IIRC, the plan was to roll this design to Tomcat 7 and Tomcat 6 as well.
Since we have XSLT at our disposal, I propose that we: a) leave <header> and some of the more exotic HTML5 elements in place in the source. b) have the transformer convert <header> into <div> for the time being. At some point in the future, we can remove that substitution. If I've got it wrong, and the XSLT is the problem (because it converts <section> into <header> instead of <div>), well then it's just a one-step process: change the XSLT to use <div> instead of <header> and be done with it. I like the "proper" markup of <header>, etc. because it gives the document more semantic structure than all those <divs> (one of the downfalls of HTML DOM standardization is that everyone switched everything over to DIV). On the other hand, there are <h1> through <h6>, so if you want a <header>, why not use <hN> instead? -chris
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