I think it would be fair to give Andy and Romain the first responses.

 - Andy, do you see anything you may have said or did in your exchange with 
Romain that you feel is not the Apache way?

 - Romain, do you see anything you may have said or did in your exchange with 
Andy that you feel is not the Apache way? 


-- 
David Blevins
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http://www.tomitribe.com

> On Jul 1, 2017, at 1:53 PM, David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’ve gone through the commit@ and dev@ archives to piece together exactly 
> what happened on the 27th.
> 
> This type of conflict is disappointing and not the Apache Way.  We need to 
> shine a spotlight on and learn from these types of exchanges.
> 
> We have some homework to do.  Everyone read this exchange in detail and with 
> an analytical mind:
> 
> - Look for and label the mistakes made
> - Focus on the behavior and not the people
> - Sleep on it, review your list, then post
> - Do not +1 people’s lists, post your own
> 
> We will then have an open discussion on what is wrong with this exchange.  To 
> my analysis I see 7 distinct issues in the exchange.
> 
> 
>    Jun 27, 21:34
>    AG> svn commit: r1800091
> 
>    Jun 27, 21:41
>    RM> svn commit: r1800092 (revert)
> 
>    Jun 27, 21:41
>    [dev@ list] (Fwd: svn commit: r1800091)
>    RM> Please don't publish this, it breaks existing links which is
>    pby sthg we don't want to do now. Pinged Ivan about it
> 
>    Jun 27, 21:51
>    AG> svn commit: r1800093
> 
>    Jun 27, 21:56
>    RM> svn commit: r1800094 (revert)
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:56
>    [dev@ list] (Re: TomEE Documentation)
>    RM> PS - cause it appeared unobvious on jira: we should try to
>    keep current bookmarks as much as possible cause users already
>    complained we changed them and it is now "done" (= we dont get
>    complains anymore or very rarely) so i don't feel comfortable
>    breaking it again
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:12
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> Romain Manni-Bucau did you seriously just overwrite my commit?
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:13
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    RM> yep, sent a mail on the list explaining why we can't accept
>    this patch as that when you committed (forwarding the commit mail
>    to dev@) + second commit pushed build temp files (target/) which
>    shouldnt be.
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:17
>    AG> svn commit: r1800095
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:18
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> You are simply unbelievable.
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:19
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> This ticket is in progress, and I was working on it. How dare
>    you!
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:20
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> What do you think the staging is for?
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:20
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    RM> ...did you notice you broke bookmarks and messed up the repo?
>    dont think it is being unbelievable to fix it. Also pushing a
>    patch without reviewing it is not good too.
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:21
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> On what planet is this acceptable?
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:21
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> You are arrogant beyond belief!
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:22
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    RM> probably the same planet where ignoring a list dicussion which
>    is not finished (website structure) is acceptable :D
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:22
>    RM> svn commit: r1800097 (revert)
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:27
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> No Romain. This ticket was flagged, and with your usual
>    arrogance you just trash other peoples work. I was in the process
>    of reviewing it. Pushing to stage is perfectly valid. This is
>    simply not acceptable.
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:27
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> I will be escalating this incident.
> 
>    Jun 27, 22:29
>    [Commented] (TOMEE-2078)
>    AG> Thanks Ivan - This is a nice improvement
> 
> This went on for a while and then spilled over to this thread:
> 
>    "Suffocating development environment"
>    
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1306bfc0bb78ef47517db6e3866bb750a72458796f9895545dc39cd6@%3Cdev.tomee.apache.org%3E
> 
> 
> 
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