I think it would be fair to give Andy and Romain the first responses. - Andy, do you see anything you may have said or did in your exchange with Romain that you feel is not the Apache way?
- Romain, do you see anything you may have said or did in your exchange with Andy that you feel is not the Apache way? -- David Blevins http://twitter.com/dblevins http://www.tomitribe.com > On Jul 1, 2017, at 1:53 PM, David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I’ve gone through the commit@ and dev@ archives to piece together exactly > what happened on the 27th. > > This type of conflict is disappointing and not the Apache Way. We need to > shine a spotlight on and learn from these types of exchanges. > > We have some homework to do. Everyone read this exchange in detail and with > an analytical mind: > > - Look for and label the mistakes made > - Focus on the behavior and not the people > - Sleep on it, review your list, then post > - Do not +1 people’s lists, post your own > > We will then have an open discussion on what is wrong with this exchange. To > my analysis I see 7 distinct issues in the exchange. > > > Jun 27, 21:34 > AG> svn commit: r1800091 > > Jun 27, 21:41 > RM> svn commit: r1800092 (revert) > > Jun 27, 21:41 > [dev@ list] (Fwd: svn commit: r1800091) > RM> Please don't publish this, it breaks existing links which is > pby sthg we don't want to do now. Pinged Ivan about it > > Jun 27, 21:51 > AG> svn commit: r1800093 > > Jun 27, 21:56 > RM> svn commit: r1800094 (revert) > > Jun 27, 22:56 > [dev@ list] (Re: TomEE Documentation) > RM> PS - cause it appeared unobvious on jira: we should try to > keep current bookmarks as much as possible cause users already > complained we changed them and it is now "done" (= we dont get > complains anymore or very rarely) so i don't feel comfortable > breaking it again > > Jun 27, 22:12 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> Romain Manni-Bucau did you seriously just overwrite my commit? > > Jun 27, 22:13 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > RM> yep, sent a mail on the list explaining why we can't accept > this patch as that when you committed (forwarding the commit mail > to dev@) + second commit pushed build temp files (target/) which > shouldnt be. > > Jun 27, 22:17 > AG> svn commit: r1800095 > > Jun 27, 22:18 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> You are simply unbelievable. > > Jun 27, 22:19 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> This ticket is in progress, and I was working on it. How dare > you! > > Jun 27, 22:20 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> What do you think the staging is for? > > Jun 27, 22:20 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > RM> ...did you notice you broke bookmarks and messed up the repo? > dont think it is being unbelievable to fix it. Also pushing a > patch without reviewing it is not good too. > > Jun 27, 22:21 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> On what planet is this acceptable? > > Jun 27, 22:21 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> You are arrogant beyond belief! > > Jun 27, 22:22 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > RM> probably the same planet where ignoring a list dicussion which > is not finished (website structure) is acceptable :D > > Jun 27, 22:22 > RM> svn commit: r1800097 (revert) > > Jun 27, 22:27 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> No Romain. This ticket was flagged, and with your usual > arrogance you just trash other peoples work. I was in the process > of reviewing it. Pushing to stage is perfectly valid. This is > simply not acceptable. > > Jun 27, 22:27 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> I will be escalating this incident. > > Jun 27, 22:29 > [Commented] (TOMEE-2078) > AG> Thanks Ivan - This is a nice improvement > > This went on for a while and then spilled over to this thread: > > "Suffocating development environment" > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1306bfc0bb78ef47517db6e3866bb750a72458796f9895545dc39cd6@%3Cdev.tomee.apache.org%3E > > > > -- > David Blevins > http://twitter.com/dblevins > http://www.tomitribe.com >