I'm +1 to enhance our github support, it is really a favorable contribution
solution but for the process itself I don't see what changed so I'm still
-1 for the reasons mentionned when we discussed it.


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2017-07-03 3:04 GMT+02:00 David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>:

> There’s a discussion on the private list on this topic, but given the
> recent thread I think it makes sense to move that here.
>
> The vote would be only on this question:
>
>   - Is RTC worth trying for 3 months? (+1,+/-0,-1)
>
> I’ve seen some voices in favor, but do not want to propose a vote
> without a heads-up.  Specifically, even if many people like the idea
> we should talk about how we want to do it.
>
> # Review-than-commit
>
> For those that do not know, Review-than-commit is essentially what
> Github Pull Requests are.  Prior to github, Apache describes them as:
>
>  - Commit policy which requires that all changes receive consensus
>    approval in order to be committed.
>
> I think we’ve seen evidence that:
>
>  - Slowing ourselves down can be a good thing.
>
>  - Moving ahead after discussion is a good thing.  Discussion should
>    precede even the first commit.
>
>  - More eyes and talk around commits can help documentation efforts.
>
>  - As 3 +1s are required, a one-to-one conversation with no one else
>    included is naturally discouraged.
>
> # Trial basis
>
> My thought is to go RTC for 3 months as a trial.  After 3 months, no
> action means we revert back to our present CTR.  A new vote would be
> required to continue RTC in any form, as-was or modified.
>
> The trial-basis is to acknowledge that we are voting on a guess of
> potential benefits.  This allows us to "try before we buy" and the
> vote really comes down to if we want to try.  We need not make a
> decision based on other people's experience and have a means to gain
> our own experience with a built-in escape clause that triggers lazily.
>
> RTC may sound like a good idea, but our implemention of it may be bad
> in practise.  It may sound like a bad idea, but we may discover
> positives we hadn't anticipated.  We don't currently know.
>
> # How would we do it?
>
> Some things that would be good to discuss:
>
>   - How could we use github pull requests?  Other communities do use
>     them and I suspect there are options we have not explored.
>
>   - Should all reviews be on the dev list? With Github PRs comments
>     and JIRA comments, there needs to be a source of truth.
>
>   - Should we fully document the process before we try so we can get
>     the most value from a 3 month trial?
>
>
> --
> David Blevins
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>
>

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