If we start adding EE8 features then we will further blur the line.Imo we
should remain clean and push for TomEE8 instead...
LieGrue,strub
On Saturday, 31 March 2018, 23:00:43 CEST, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 31 mars 2018 22:33, "Mark Struberg" <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid> a écrit :
folks stop. johnzon-1.1.7 is JSON-P-1.1 which is EE8.Do we really want to
include this in Tomee7 (seven!)?
I don't think so...
Why? Doesnt prevent to be ee7 certified + we are not so only constraint is
about java min version.
That said agree tomee 8 can be safer for a long terms choice.
LieGrue,strub
On Saturday, 31 March 2018, 19:32:52 CEST, Alex The Rocker <
alex.m3...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
To continue on this thread: I have updated
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2153 title to make it more
explicit.
New title of this JIRA is now "Dependency upgrade to Johnzon 1.1.7"
Could this be part of next 7.0.5-snapshot ?
Best regards,
Alexandre
2018-03-31 18:12 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
> Le 31 mars 2018 16:36, "Alex The Rocker" <alex.m3...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Hi Romain,
>
> Are you suggesting that instead of waiting for TomEE 7.0.5 people
> should upgrade to TomEE 8 ?
>
>
> Yes
>
>
> IHMO it's a bigger step for people : major version changes usually
> involves major impacts (at least that's my experience).
>
>
> Shouldnt be the case here. Tomee 1.0 to 1.5 was way more hurting than 1 to
> 7. Here it should even be smoother.
>
> I'm more fond of a TomEE 7.0.5 with Java 8 as the minimum prerequisite
> if this allows for the replacement of Johnzon 1.0.0 by latest Johnzon
> 1.1.x to get all the fixes committed so far.
>
>
> +1 from me too
>
> After all ,Java 7 end of public updates was in April 2015, so making
> Java 8 as the minimum prerequisite for TomEE7 three years later after
> this date sounds very reasonable.
>
> Thanks,
> Alexandre
>
>
>
>
> 2018-03-31 15:44 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
>> Le 31 mars 2018 15:00, "Jonathan Gallimore" <jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com
>
>> a écrit :
>>
>> It requires TomEE 7.x, which targets EE7, to shift to Java 8.
>>
>> I'm not fussed either way, but we should discuss it and encourage input
>> from the wider community. I'm sure I've asked before if it's ok to
require
>> Java 8 and still target EE 7, but I can't remember if it was definitively
>> answered or not, and if it was, I can't remember what the answer was.
>>
>>
>> Mixed thread.
>>
>> Having tomee 8 released just after the 7.0.5 it can also mean you can
>> ignore this one and upgrade straight after. Just thinking out loud.
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2018, 12:29 Alex The Rocker, <alex.m3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I agree with Romain : couldn't TomEE 7.0.5 be based on latest stable
>>> Johnzon 1.1.x ?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-03-31 11:16 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
>>> > We can but we miss (ATM) a looot of fixes.
>>> >
>>> > Le 30 mars 2018 23:26, "Jonathan Gallimore" <
>>> jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com>
>>> > a écrit :
>>> >
>>> >> I wonder if we can get a Johnzon 1.0.1 release, targetting EE7? Looks
>>> like
>>> >> the code is in the branch and ready to go.
>>> >>
>>> >> Jon
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Alex The Rocker <
alex.m3...@gmail.com
>>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > (sorry previous mail got truncated)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hello Jon,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > To answer your question about whether or not my expected Johnzon
>> fixes
>>> >> > are in current "to become TomEE 7.0.5" : my view is that this is
not
>>> >> > the case:
>>> >> > * The following JIRA is still opened :
>>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2153
>>> >> > * According to discussion in same thread of message, Romain
> proposed
>>> >> > to push Johnzon 1.1.x in current TomEE 7.x repository (sorry if I
>>> >> > don't use the proper vocabulary) and I like very this proposal
given
>>> >> > the large amount of fixes in Johnzon 1.1.x versus the pile I have
>> been
>>> >> > internally reported on Johnzon 1.0.0
>>> >> > * Appart from Johnzon 1.1.x, TomEE 7.0.5 should include latest
>> Tomcat
>>> >> > 8.5.x security fix level, so that we could propose to casual TomEE
>>> >> > users a version "as secure as possible" when it'll be released.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Of course I volunteer to run tests on any snapshot / RC on our
large
>>> >> > number of complex web apps.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best regards,
>>> >> > Alexandre
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2018-03-30 9:59 GMT+02:00 Alex The Rocker <alex.m3...@gmail.com>:
>>> >> > > Hello Jon,
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > To answer your question about whether or not my expected Johnzon
>>> fixes
>>> >> > > are in current "to become TomEE 7.0.5" : my view is that this is
>> not
>>> >> > > the case:
>>> >> > > * The following JIRA is still opened :
>>> >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-2153
>>> >> > > * According to discussion in same thread of message, Romain
>>> proposed
>>> >> > > to push Johnzon 1.1.x in wha
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > 2018-03-29 19:00 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Gallimore <
>>> >> > jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com>:
>>> >> > >> Yes, if we want to release now we'd need to roll that change
> back.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Jon
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, 17:55 Romain Manni-Bucau, <
>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >> wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>> Le 29 mars 2018 18:23, "Jonathan Gallimore" <
>>> >> > jonathan.gallim...@gmail.com>
>>> >> > >>> a écrit :
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> We did talk about doing a TomEE 7 release. I'm willing to be
>>> release
>>> >> > >>> manager. I have 2 questions:
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> * Does the TomEE 7 / master branch have the fix you want
> already,
>>> or
>>> >> is
>>> >> > >>> there work to do there?
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> * I did upgrade xbean to a version that handles java 9 and 10,
>>> and I
>>> >> > also
>>> >> > >>> pushed updates to OWB and OpenJPA for the same. Do we want to
>> wait
>>> >> for
>>> >> > >>> releases of those, or do we want to release right away?
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Guess we want to have a single xbean version so either wait or
>>> >> rollback
>>> >> > >>> pby.
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Jon
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Alex The Rocker <
>>> >> alex.m3...@gmail.com
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >>> wrote:
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > Hello,
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > I noticed that in latest TomEE 7.0.5 SNAPSHOT we will have
>>> Johnzon
>>> >> > 1.0.0.
>>> >> > >>> > Is there any chance to see Romain's proposal to ise jsonp/b
>>> 1.1/1.0
>>> >> > in
>>> >> > >>> > tomee 7 come out anytime soon?
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > Best regards,
>>> >> > >>> > Alexandre
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > 2018-03-04 14:46 GMT+01:00 Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>> >> rmannibu...@gmail.com
>>> >> > >:
>>> >> > >>> > > @Mark: it is tracked on johnzon (
>>> >> > >>> > >
>>> >> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/mobile#
>>> >> > issue/JOHNZON-149
>>> >> > >>> > ).
>>> >> > >>> > > There was the proposal I did months ago to just use jsonp/b
>>> >> > 1.1/1.0 in
>>> >> > >>> > > tomee 7 (doesnt prevent anything from tomee perspective if
> we
>>> >> drop
>>> >> > java
>>> >> > >>> 7
>>> >> > >>> > > compat). If not desired we should redo 1.x from master pby
> to
>>> >> > avoid an
>>> >> > >>> > half
>>> >> > >>> > > merged branch.
>>> >> > >>> > >
>>> >> > >>> > > Le 4 mars 2018 12:40, "Mark Struberg"
>>> <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid
>>> >> >
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > >>> > écrit :
>>> >> > >>> > >
>>> >> > >>> > >> Hi Alex!
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> johnzon-1.0.x is targetting JSON-P_1.0 (EE7) and
>>> johnzon-1.0.0
>>> >> is
>>> >> > >>> indeed
>>> >> > >>> > >> the last version we shipped so far.
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> johnzon-1.1.x is targetting JSON-P_1.1 and JSON-B_1.0.
>>> >> > >>> > >> Those are all EE8 specs and thus this is also the version
>>> used
>>> >> in
>>> >> > >>> > TomEE8.
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> If you have some urgent need/request for a fix in
>>> Johnzon-1.0.x
>>> >> > (EE7)
>>> >> > >>> > then
>>> >> > >>> > >> please identify the tickets you suggest to have fixed and
>>> report
>>> >> > them
>>> >> > >>> on
>>> >> > >>> > >> the d...@johnzon.apache.org list.
>>> >> > >>> > >> What could work is if you go through either the tickets
>>> resolved
>>> >> > in
>>> >> > >>> > >> various johnzon-1.1.x versions, or scan the git log for
>> fixes
>>> >> you
>>> >> > want
>>> >> > >>> > to
>>> >> > >>> > >> have backported.
>>> >> > >>> > >> We will then discuss it over there, create tickets and
then
>>> >> merge
>>> >> > back
>>> >> > >>> > the
>>> >> > >>> > >> stuff.
>>> >> > >>> > >> The Johnzon team is surely happy about every helping hand!
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> Btw, that's really the same for almost all the parts of
>>> TomEE.
>>> >> > >>> > >> 85% of the tickets and improvements are really happening
at
>>> all
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > >>> > other
>>> >> > >>> > >> projects: johnzon, bval, OpenWebBeans, OpenJPA, MyFaces,
>>> Tomcat,
>>> >> > >>> > Geronimo,
>>> >> > >>> > >> etc.
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> Of course it's a good idea to keep the TomEE project in
the
>>> loop
>>> >> > from
>>> >> > >>> a
>>> >> > >>> > >> high-level perspective. For example to summarise the
> tickets
>>> >> which
>>> >> > >>> will
>>> >> > >>> > get
>>> >> > >>> > >> resolved.
>>> >> > >>> > >> But the actual work + the release etc will happen on the
>>> >> Johnzon,
>>> >> > OWB,
>>> >> > >>> > etc
>>> >> > >>> > >> lists.
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> txs and LieGrue,
>>> >> > >>> > >> strub
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> > Am 03.03.2018 um 23:32 schrieb Alex The Rocker <
>>> >> > >>> alex.m3...@gmail.com
>>> >> > >>> > >:
>>> >> > >>> > >> >
>>> >> > >>> > >> > Hello,
>>> >> > >>> > >> >
>>> >> > >>> > >> > +1 for a TomEE+ 7.0.5 asap, I volonteer to test it
> against
>>> our
>>> >> > large
>>> >> > >>> > web
>>> >> > >>> > >> apps!
>>> >> > >>> > >> > By the way, TomEE+ 7.0.4 had a super old version of
>> Johnzon
>>> >> > (1.0.0
>>> >> > >>> if
>>> >> > >>> > >> > I remember well), could 7.0.5 embedded a decently more
>>> recent
>>> >> > >>> Johnzon
>>> >> > >>> > >> > version to fix the tons of issues we had to hack around
>>> with
>>> >> > Johnzon
>>> >> > >>> > >> > 1.0.0 ?
>>> >> > >>> > >> >
>>> >> > >>> > >> > Thanks,
>>> >> > >>> > >> > Alex
>>> >> > >>> > >> >
>>> >> > >>> > >> > 2018-03-02 14:56 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg
>>> >> > <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid
>>> >> > >>> >:
>>> >> > >>> > >> >> hi folks!
>>> >> > >>> > >> >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> >> We discussed this quite some times and we got good
>>> feedback
>>> >> so
>>> >> > far.
>>> >> > >>> > So
>>> >> > >>> > >> it's finally time to make this reality.
>>> >> > >>> > >> >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> >> Over the weekend I'd like to switch TomEE to master and
>>> >> create
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > >>> > >> maintenance branch for Tomee7.
>>> >> > >>> > >> >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> >> After that I'd love to roll a first TomEE8 version in
> say
>>> one
>>> >> > month
>>> >> > >>> > >> from now.
>>> >> > >>> > >> >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> >> Any objection?
>>> >> > >>> > >> >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> >> LieGrue,
>>> >> > >>> > >> >> strub
>>> >> > >>> > >> >>
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>>
